There are lots of little nuances that they seem to negate, don't know about, or don't care about for me to suggest them in this case. Then again lots of companies compound stupid little things so they're not alone.Originally Posted by OnionsAndDragons
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I have a number from both RCS and Bravo Concealment. My Bravo Concealment holsters are every bit as refined as RCS and the only reason I started going to Bravo Concealment was due to their price being significantly cheaper than RCS. When you really look at both, all you are really looking at is molded plastic holsters, how much artistry can there be? Both work for me.
Last edited by gtmtnbiker98; 06-21-2017 at 09:57 AM.
Some artistry, just as a statement on the market as a whole, creates issues. The things I alluded to above should be searchable on the P&S groups by the owners. I don't really care to run around and shit on everyone else, my intent was to add to what someone else posted.
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I've not found any kydex holster, from any manufacturer, that carries as closely as the Phantom WITH THE PANCAKE LOOPS. These are an extra addition which more closely mimicks the design of a leather pancake holster. They are simply offset from the body of the holster, which lets the holster sit closer by an amount equal to the width of the holster + the width of the loops, which if you think about it is pretty substantial.
Why every kydex manufacturer doesn't use these completely baffles me. As is, the Phantom with the pancake loops is the only non-leather holster I can use for OWB concealment.
Now that I'm looking at this it looks like Bravo offers these same loops now (https://www.bravoconcealment.com/col...iant=223462856), so I would say they are good to go though I've not tried one. I think these loops are the answer to the OP's question.
Most makers are using those loops or similar. I use something different as I changed from shitty kydex loops to something else prior to IM parts existing.
You'd have to spend some time to find someone not using IM loops.
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I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing, IM or not I'm referring to offset "pancake" loops like the ones I linked. The images below are not offset and wouldn't pull in as close as a Phantom or Bravo with the pancake loops for me.
https://i1.wp.com/darkstargear.com/w.../IMG_8158s.jpg
https://i0.wp.com/darkstargear.com/w...IMG_6151_s.jpg
This is what I mean:
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/075...gs1_grande.jpg
Last edited by ScotchMan; 06-23-2017 at 01:08 PM.
Ahhh, those ones. Mine are an in-between the ones you're talking about.
That said, they're still widely used and most folks carry them or use compatible spacing for them.
ETA: I desperately need pics that are recent.
Last edited by orionz06; 06-23-2017 at 01:17 PM.
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Have you looked at the pics on my website? Yours are far better.
The "Loops" that seem to be in question are what I refer to as OWB wings. They are the only OWB belt attachment that I offer for my pancake holsters.
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