Originally Posted by LOKNLOD
"I repeat. Do as I say...not as I do!"
"I repeat. Do as I say...not as I do!"
There's nothing civil about this war.
Perhaps he counts his webmaster as "others saying it and not correcting them?" Looks like he admitted to a lie with another lie.
As for instructors having real world experience I see it as an enhancement. It's not necessary but helps put things in context. Being able to teach and diagnose is what I view as critical. It's why I enjoyed training with Mac, Defoor, Pannone, Procter, and F2S. And why I'll train with them again. They have the skills and the experience. There are instructors who I want to train with who never went into harms way. It's not mandatory for me. YMMV.
I'm suprised so many are taking up for this POS.
1. Maybe, just maybe, the lie started out as a lie of omission. I don't think that's an excuse, but if you think that's a mitigating factor then remember he outright said he was Force Recon plenty of times.
2. He lied about his rank.
3. No, his resume wasn't good enough as it was, at least not if he wanted to get hired by Magpul, which in turn allowed him to hang out his own shingle. He was a junior enlisted commo geek. If, and that's a big if because he's a liar, if he was attached to an intel agency it was probably to put fills in radios or some other low responsibility duty. Don't let your imagination run wild. He wasn't Jason Bourne.
4. He hasn't "owned" this. He only came clean because he was about to be outed.
5. There's no shortage of good instructors. We aren't diminished by him slinking into oblivion.
6. If you have a cavalier attitude about someone claiming membership in an elite group, it makes me think you've never been part of such a group. If you had had to bleed and sweat to get there and watched others from your group pay the ultimate sacrifice as part of that of that group, you might not be so forgiving.
To me, experience matters and my priorities are very similar to RobS.
Does an individual need to be a professional gun carrier to teach shooting? No. An example, guys like Jerry are brought into various organizations to teach shooting, because they have a huge grasp on shooting, given their huge amount of experience with shooting. They are not brought in to teach tactics. They are brought in to teach shooting.
Does an individual need a background and experience in small unit tactics, in order to teach small unit tactics? Absolutely.
Experience, when properly tempered with reflection and analysis allows an instructor to have a much more comprehensive grasp of the material, which he can then relay to students.
Most anything worth instructing, especially tactics, has 2 parts. A task, and a purpose. I do this_________, so that________. Teaching a task is easy. Anyone can instruct an action (aka shooting instructors teaching shooting, and being good at it). As you begin teaching more art and not science stuff, the purpose or the "why" rapidly begins to outweigh the action. Because understanding the "why" allows you to apply the task in whatever situation you find yourself in.
My most formative instruction was done in a school house where nearly all the instructors where combat vets. Not out of requirement, but out of a self selecting process. Having that degree of experience in the instructor cadre lended itself to a knowing of the "Why" which I am convinced would not have come if the instructors were not as experienced. Ultimately that instruction has paid dividends.
"When the hour of crisis comes, remember that 40 selected men can shake the world." -- Yasotay
I have no clue as to why anyone would ever defend him. Stolen Valor. He should be arrested and charged.
I'm wondering who here is defending him?
Charged with what? The original Stolen Valor Act was ruled unconstitutional. The 2013 revision of the law only applies if a person claims one of the specified valor awards with intent to obtain money, property, etc. Claiming to be a Recon Marine is not claiming to have received one of the specified valor awards.
Last edited by jlw; 05-05-2017 at 08:57 AM.
I had an ER nurse in a class. I noticed she kept taking all head shots. Her response when asked why, "'I've seen too many people who have been shot in the chest putting up a fight in the ER." Point taken.
How about being charged with fraud for intentionally deceiving people for monetary gain?
I should've changed my original sentence structure. I didn't mean charged with Stolen Valor, but I can see how it would be interpreted as that. Posting on the fly, sorry.
Word.
"Gunfighting is a thinking man's game. So we might want to bring thinking back into it."-MDFA
Beware of my temper, and the dog that I've found...
Liars, prevaricators, deceivers, cheats, phonies, perjurers, dissimulators, equivocators, fibbers, falsifiers and misleaders all suck.
There's nothing civil about this war.
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