Greenhorn question: HK P2000 and P30

[LearnedHat]

What do I need to know comparison wise - several videos out there but I trust this site more.

Is it mainly size and ergonomics?

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• P2000 has only backstraps, P30 has side panels and backstraps
• P2000 has a 13 round magazine that sits flush, the P30 has a 15 round magazine
• P2000 does not have a version with a manual safety
• P2000 has its own dovetail for sights, the P30 shares a dovetail with the VP and HK45 series
• P2000 and P30 have different grip textures
• P2000 has a magazine release that crosses the trigger guard on the bottom (à la USP), while the P30 simply has two paddles; the P30's paddles are also larger
• P2000 does not have a factory LEM Light SKU, though it can be converted to it without much issue
• P2000 does not have a captive left side slide release; it is completely removed during field stripping

That's about all I can think of off the top of my head.

[Jason M]

As a comparison of size:

P2000 is G19ish in the grip with a slightly shorter barrel. Think Sig P228/P229.
P30 is slightly longer than G19ish in the grip with the same slightly shorter barrel. Think Sig P228/P229.

FWIW, I like the palm swells offered by the P30 grips over the flat sides of the P2000 grip. The P30 fits my hand better and I do not get pinched during reloads they way I do with the P2000 or G19. The P30 grip, while longer than the P2000, still conceals under a polo shirt in the 2:30 position with a proper holster.

[pastaslinger]

In my opinion, the P2000 is a nice size and is pretty comparable to the G19 in profile and role. I think the P30 has a weird size where it is big for a carry gun or for being a compact. Both have absolutely garbage triggers.

[LockedBreech]

My brief take is that the P2000 is more concealable (though honestly not that concealable, it's a chubby buddy) while the P30 is an overall more comfortable, shootable, and adjustable gun, but is bigger.

[hufnagel]

P2000 pinches my hand on reloads (between mag base plate and frame... OUCH!) P30 does not.

[YVK]

P2000 retains (almost sure of it, and absolutely sure for 2000sk) its mainspring with backstrap. Break pin/lose backstrap (very unlikely scenario), the gun is down. P30 has a mainspring retaining mechanism that is independent of backstraps.

[LearnedHat]

• P2000 has only backstraps, P30 has side panels and backstraps
• P2000 has a 13 round magazine that sits flush, the P30 has a 15 round magazine
• P2000 does not have a version with a manual safety
• P2000 has its own dovetail for sights, the P30 shares a dovetail with the VP and HK45 series
• P2000 and P30 have different grip textures
• P2000 has a magazine release that crosses the trigger guard on the bottom (à la USP), while the P30 simply has two paddles; the P30's paddles are also larger
• P2000 does not have a factory LEM Light SKU, though it can be converted to it without much issue
• P2000 does not have a captive left side slide release; it is completely removed during field stripping

That's about all I can think of off the top of my head.

Thank you and thanks everybody for your contributions. Very helpful.

[bofe954]

P2000 retains (almost sure of it, and absolutely sure for 2000sk) its mainspring with backstrap. Break pin/lose backstrap (very unlikely scenario), the gun is down. P30 has a mainspring retaining mechanism that is independent of backstraps.

That is true. The pin is huge though, and goes through quite a bit of plastic. I'm not sure why it would be more likely to break than any other mechanism of retention. Different sight options seem to be more available for the P30.

[David S.]

For me, the P2000 fits perfectly in the G19 sized ccw role. The only downside is the lack of aftermarket sight options. I do shoot the P30 a bit better, but find the p2000 easier to carry. That said, I'm still trying to decide between a P2000 for all around use, or a P30/P30sk combo. The P2000 is just a bit bigger than I would prefer for deep concealment at work.