Which Dillon for a complete noob?

[taadski]

And as previously mentioned, Dillons hold their resale value better than Toyota Tacomas

Let's not get crazy now.

[hiro]

I'm not in a position to set up a reloading station at home, small rented apartment and no access to a man cave...

For the future tho, looking at the Mk7 I get serious gear lust...

I can see myself enjoying reloading, I know that sounds weird, but I would rather start with a simple base and expand it.

Is there any reason to not start with a 650 and then add all the extras later? Will it save money to buy it all in one hit (and/or just get the 1050 in the first place?) or are there hinderances in the upgrade path if it's done in stages?

[Sal Picante]

I'm not in a position to set up a reloading station at home, small rented apartment and no access to a man cave...

For the future tho, looking at the Mk7 I get serious gear lust...

I can see myself enjoying reloading, I know that sounds weird, but I would rather start with a simple base and expand it.

Is there any reason to not start with a 650 and then add all the extras later? Will it save money to buy it all in one hit (and/or just get the 1050 in the first place?) or are there hinderances in the upgrade path if it's done in stages?

Reloading is kinda fun, but it becomes a chore, really... Keeping the beast fed is a lot of work.

They're different presses. The 1050 is easier to automate in some ways than a 650, but also slightly more complicated to get "dialed-in". I like the priming system of the 1050 way way way more than the 650, but that's just me. I also think the toolhead design is more robust on the 1050. Lastly, swaging cases is a big plus if you're using a lot of NATO brass.

That said, an automated machine doesn't exactly lend itself to "tweaking" - it is for this reason that a simpler press can be a big help. I wouldn't want to start off with an automated 1050 and "debug" the system. Seriously not fun debugging even when you KNOW what you're doing.

[mmc45414]

I didn't, at all, take it that way, FWIW.

I like to err on the side of caution. I am still kinda new here and have been enjoying the relatively low dickhead ratio compared to the rest of the dang ol internet.

[mmc45414]

Yeah, the the speed advantage isn't really there until you add the case feeder at the least which is another couple of hundred. Then you need a conversion kit for the case feeder if you want to go from 9mm to .45acp.....etc. Then if you want to go from 9mm to .223, it isn't a piece of cake. It takes me about 2 min to go from 9mm to .223 on a 550.

Just a point of clarification, the 650 conversions are more expensive because they INCLUDE the case feed conversion parts. At first I didn't get why they were more.

[mmc45414]

I'm not in a position to set up a reloading station at home, small rented apartment and no access to a man cave...

When my wife and I met I was sharing a two bedroom apartment with a buddy and had a workbench in my bedroom with my Rockchucker mounted on it. My wife still reminisces about hanging her bra on it...

I can see myself enjoying reloading, I know that sounds weird

Some people hate it, I find it brings me a sense of accomplishment. Some people fill their basement with woodworking tools, I would rather just go buy a damn table and spend my leisure time reloading ammo!

I would rather start with a simple base and expand it. Is there any reason to not start with a 650 and then add all the extras later?

I also like to invest incrementally, and you could get a 650 without a case feeder, buy a simple scale and probably a F.A.R.T. tumbler and start loading. You will (soon) want a feeder, and all sorts of other stuff (including maybe a 1050, but I just went to a 650 after three decades of 550s) but that will be thousands and thousands of rounds downrange later.

[SeriousStudent]

Les, I want to be you when I grow up.

[Peally]

Fun? You're the same sickos that get a sense of accomplishment doing the dishes or mowing a lawn. You're sick

[Exiledviking]

Fun? You're the same sickos that get a sense of accomplishment doing the dishes or mowing a lawn. You're sick

There's a vast, VAST, difference in the sense of accomplishment from reloading vs. mowing the lawn or washing dishes.

[busdriver]

Reloading started out fun and with a sense of accomplishment. Then I realized instead of saving money, I could shoot twice as much. Then I started shooting USPSA. Then I was debating if I really wanted to shoot, cause I just couldn't pull that handle anymore. Automated 1050 was a great choice.