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    *Drum Roll* Genius or Insanity? Freshly Designed Drill

    Hi p-f, may I humbly (or not so) present to you the 3x3x3 drill!

    DISCLAIMER: I am not military or law enforcement, I have no certifications or medical education and I've never been in a self defense shooting.

    Credit for inspiration goes to the entire forum - but more specifically to Daga for his articulate and thought-provoking posts in the "Human Targets" thread

    I'm going to type out the rules here - but I really encourage you to watch the first half of my youtube video as it covers the motivations and "why?" side of it better - the second half is my demoing the drill.



    (Video is processing - should be live in 5 minutes)




    Mr. White I am stealing your DOTW formatting for this.

    Designed by: SsevenN
    Range: 3/7/10 yards
    Target: Human Fist- Outline your closed fist with a sharpie in the anatomically correct location on the body - use aproportionate and correctly sized human silhouette target as the backer - You are encouraged to use more "life like" tagets to subdue the contrast with the "Fist" (Video explains better)
    Start Position: Low Ready + Concealed/Duty rig
    Rounds Fired: 18/54

    Procedure:

    String 1: Low ready, fire 3 shots @ 3 yards
    String 2: Holstered, fire 3 shots @ 3 yards
    String 3: Low ready, fire 3 shots @ 5 yards
    String 4: Holstered, fire 3 shots @ 5 yards
    String 5: Low ready, fire 3 shots @ 10 yards
    String 6: Holstered, fire 3 shots @ 10 yards

    Any shots not touching the fist - total disqualification of entire set.

    Scoring is overall COMBINED time of a completed, non-DQ'd set.

    This is run HOT, you may perform up to (3) sets a range session, please share your highest, non DQ'd score. (or all 3, whatever you want to do)

    There are (3) scoring brackets for this drill - GREEN (beginner/intermediate) GRAY (advanced) and WHITE (master) (wink wink)

    Please run this drill, post your results and include your average non-botched FAST scores - I will be using you guys as guinea pigs to balance the scoring brackets.
    "I'm checking out, somebody throw me in the trash"

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    Just incase I didn't articulate clearly enough how this is run, here's the demo. This was my first time ever shooting this!



    EDIT to add: I D/Q'd myself on the follow up runs.

    EDIT: I Just realized I shot the 7 yard strings at 5 yards!!!! DOH!
    Last edited by SsevenN; 03-12-2017 at 01:56 PM.
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    OK and for the sake of getting the ball rolling and generating some #'s I went back out and shot this 2 times.

    First run:
    1.88
    2.67
    3.00
    4.27
    4.25
    6.18

    Total: 22.25


    Second run:
    1.70
    2.86
    6.6 - Stove Pipe and my remedial action skill has atrophied
    4.14
    3.03
    6.18

    Total: 24.51

    My FAST is generally 5.75-7.25 if I don't screw up
    Last edited by SsevenN; 03-12-2017 at 05:09 PM.
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    Ok, first question - what are the scoring brackets? I see them mentioned, but then I don't see any numbers defining them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_White View Post
    Ok, first question - what are the scoring brackets? I see them mentioned, but then I don't see any numbers defining them.
    So basically I haven't written them yet, it kind of gets lost at the bottom of the OP but I'll drop my explanation and request here again for posterity.


    Please run this drill, post your results and include your average non-botched FAST scores - I will be using you guys as guinea pigs to balance the scoring brackets.

    Basically I don't think I have the range of skills to fairly score this on my own, but I'm pretty ok at extrapolating when given some numbers to work with.

    Mr. White, I'm disappointed - that's the first time I've ever seen you miss something. (That's a joke and a pun - whop whop)
    Last edited by SsevenN; 03-13-2017 at 02:23 PM.
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    Ah, I see, I thought you meant you were going to use our results to adjust the scoring brackets.
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    I just don't think the initial numbers I would cook up would be meaningful, I mean if I can't generate enough participation I'll start with some half tested values based off my personal results and averages, but I'd love if I could avoid the ambiguity stage, either way I'll eventually get the numbers figured out, maybe that's what people want to see before they start trying it? I don't know.
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