Week 205: iEl Prez

[Mr_White]

Week 205: iEl Prez

Results may be posted until March 24th, 2017.

Designed by: Kevin B.
Range: 10 yards
Target: Two USPSA Metric or IDPA targets
Start Position: Facing uprange, wrists above shoulders
Rounds Fired: 12
Procedure: Start with pistol loaded with exactly six rounds and holstered, facing uprange with wrists above shoulders. Upon start signal, turn and draw and shoot two shots to the first target (T1), two shots to the second target (T2), two shots to the first target again (T1), reload the empty gun, and shoot two shots to the second target (T2), two shots to the first target (T1), and two shots to the second target (T2.) No extra shots allowed. You'll end up with six hits on each target.

Comments from the designer:

The benefits to running it this way are:

1. It forces transitions in both directions.

2. There is a cognitive component after the reload; you have to come back to the correct target.

3. It is easier to set-up as it requires only two targets v. three.

Scoring is +1 second for a B/C; +3 for a D; +10 for a miss. There are the same number of splits and transitions as the original, but I think this version is a bit more difficult.

Add your raw time and penalties to determine your score: A/-0 = no penalty, B/C/-1 zone = +1 second per shot, D/-3 zone = +3 seconds per shot, Miss = +10 seconds per shot

Concealment is optional.

Targets spacing can be either one or three yards (one yard is more like the USPSA Classifier version of El Presidente, three yards is the classic Cooper version.) If you need to space the targets some other way due to range constraints, just note it in your results.

Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

Equipment used: gun, holster, concealment (if any)
Variations used: USPSA or IDPA targets, target spacing
Raw time
Penalties
Total score
Anything you noticed

Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.

[Mr_White]

Many thanks to Kevin B. for this contribution to the Drill of the Week!

[JAD]

Glock 17, VM2, sport coat; ipsc target, 3 yards; 9.13+3= 12.13

I ran it 5 more times, never clean. Best run was 7.68+1.

[MVS]

Equipment used: gun, holster, concealment (if any) Gen 4 G17 MOS w/ Leupold DPP, Blade tech OWB holster, jacket concealment.
Variations used: USPSA or IDPA targets, target spacing USPSA targets, 3 yard spacing
Raw time 10.55
Penalties 0
Total score 10.55
Anything you noticed Slow. Time to be gained on the mag change. Also have to switch back to factory mag release. The Vickers one is too low profile being a lefty and using finger, especially with gloves on.

[scw2]

Equipment used: CZ 75 SP01 from CCC Gestalt and polo shirt

Variations used: Had to make do with B8 targets in 1 lane spaced ~1.5 feet apart due to range constraints. Given the small transition, I assumed black is down 0, on paper is +1 sec, and a complete paper miss is +10.

Raw time: 10.08 seconds
Penalties: +5 seconds based on 5 shots on paper in the white
Total score: 15.08 seconds



Anything you noticed:
-Draw was about 2 seconds, reload about 2 seconds, transition was about 0.7 sec, and follow up shots were about 0.5 seconds.
-Feel like the draw and reload were a bit slow.
-Transitions were a tad slow, ideally could be closer to the split time on the follow up shots
-Called the left miss on left target, but failed to call the other misses...

[Mr_White]

Variations used: Had to make do with B8 targets in 1 lane spaced ~1.5 feet apart due to range constraints. Given the small transition, I assumed black is down 0, on paper is +1 sec, and a complete paper miss is +10.

Those are definitely a lot tougher targets!

[hiro]

Is there an "official" way of completing this drill within the confines of an indoor range - one lane only, should be able to do the turn tho will get funny looks. What modifications to the range and targets?

I was thinking that 3-5 yards against vertical 3"x5" cards might work.

[Kevin B.]

Is there an "official" way of completing this drill within the confines of an indoor range - one lane only, should be able to do the turn tho will get funny looks. What modifications to the range and targets?

I was thinking that 3-5 yards against vertical 3"x5" cards might work.

I think vertical 3x5 cards at 5 yards would be a workable solution.

[Mr_White]

Gen3 G34, concealed in a Keeper under a polo shirt
USPSA Metric targets, ~1 yard spacing
6.19 clean

[JAD]

Glock 17, VM2, sport coat; ipsc target, 3 yards; 9.13+3= 12.13.

Or not. I misread the instructions, and stopped after the fourth pair of shots. Will re-run.

RIF.