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    Joys of real (government) competence on simple processes

    Just got off the phone with the US Passport office or some subcontractor of theirs; I *really* needed to expedite a passport renewal I had previously sent in. On one hand this isn’t rocket surgery. On the other hand, I think this is the most optimized phone process I have ever seen. Almost makes one have faith in the government again.

    • Automated phone tree only required 3 selections, one of which was “press 1 for English”. The other two selections had zero ambiguity.
    • Reasonable wait time, and a good conservative prediction of wait time. “3-5 minutes” was estimate, took just a hair over 3 minutes.
    • A single good intermediate update “less than 2 minutes”. Hold music (nice classical piece) that made it clear I had not disconnected, but let me focus on another easy task while waiting.
    • The support person didn’t actually sound all that educated, but spoke quite clear English, with an accent that I think would be easily understood anywhere in the country.
    • I never had to repeat anything, and the person knew exactly what to do every step of the way.
    • The person warned me she was going to repeat my credit card number back to me, so there was no awkward collision of voices as I start to read the next set of numbers as she repeats the first set back to me.
    • At the end, the person gave me some good guidance re: checking back to make sure everything was going according to plan.
    • For extra credit, she sneaked in some pertinent small talk (asking about rain in the city where I live), with timing such that there was zero increase in the length of the call.


    Man, that should be a benchmark for how to handle customer calls. Way to go passport office.

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    I'm glad your phone call was excellent, but I wouldn't take a sample of one as any sort of new normal. Now if you call ATF 20 times, talk to 20 different people, and get one consistent answer we'll be getting somewhere.
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    The VA needs to take notes from the passport folks then.
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    WTF, in Tapatalk my title gets shortened to "joys of real(government)", which is totally not a thing I would ever say. Glad to see it gets displayed correctly outside of tapatalk.

    Yeah, I relate to this being just one datapoint. But it was just so far outside of my experience with any other government entity it was really remarkable. Also, it felt like most all of this was purposeful process decisions and training, not just an individual. Very particular terminology was used, etc. If not organization-wide, at least it felt like one supervisor must be really up on their game. I should get another datapoint Thursday morning; we'll see if that one is equally impressive or not.
    Last edited by luckyman; 02-21-2017 at 04:39 PM.

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    i've found it really depends on the individual/s you get to interact with.
    this inconsistency is a huge problem with govt bureaucracy

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    Was this the actual US Passport department, or was this a for profit 3rd party that expedites fast turn around for passports?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambo View Post
    I'm glad your phone call was excellent, but I wouldn't take a sample of one as any sort of new normal. Now if you call ATF 20 times, talk to 20 different people, and get one consistent answer we'll be getting somewhere.
    Most of the ATF people handling NFA can be replaced by a website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWTO View Post
    The VA needs to take notes from the passport folks then.
    I just gave up on my issues from my service that the VA denied (though they're in my medical record). I just gave up. I know that's what they want but I lacked the energy to fight it.
    #RESIST

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    Passport Specialists are promoted up to GS11 based on work proficiency/competence with supervisor's discretion.......it's not automatic.

    Given that, I imagine it would be appreciated if the Passport Agency were notified about the excellent customer service you received, and from who specifically. I mean, if you're excited about it enough to write on the gun forum, consider putting it in an email to the passport office with the person's name who assisted you......
    Last edited by TGS; 02-22-2017 at 09:43 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rauchman View Post
    Was this the actual US Passport department, or was this a for profit 3rd party that expedites fast turn around for passports?
    Either the passport office or possibly a subcontractor; I don't know if they contract that stuff out or not. It was the support number lister on the .gov passport web site.

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