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Thread: Speer .357 Gold Dot short barrel in a 640?

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    Speer .357 Gold Dot short barrel in a 640?

    Anyone shot any of this in a steel gun, say a 640 Pro? How did it compare recoilwise with the .38 +P Gold Dots? I'm guessing that it must be similar to a 940 with +P 9mm, which is my closest frame of reference. If comparable, I might try and hunt some down. If really unpleasant, I'll pass on trying it.
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    Haven't shot this load in a J frame, but is noticibly less unpleasant to shoot than 125 or 158 GD 357 loadings in a 3" 65. Recollection says it is loaded to about half way between 38 +P and full patch 357.
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    I carry this load in my Speed Sixes. I think of it as a modernized version of the old pre-war 38-44 load - its noticeably stiffer than a +P but pretty mild for a magnum. Its not "pleasant" in a 640 IMO, but noticably tamer than Silvertips or 125 grain Flashbang grenades. Similar control to 110 gr mags without the audio/visual drama.

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    A little stouter than +P in my experience, about equal to the .357 125gr Golden Saber in recoil.
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    Thanks for the feedback, now the hard part of actually finding some...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LtDave View Post
    Thanks for the feedback, now the hard part of actually finding some...
    Yup!

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    I haven't seen any in over a year. They make it in small batches, and it sells out quickly.
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    Has anybody chronographed it through 2" and 3" barrels? Darryl and I have long discussed that a 135 Gold Dot at about 1000-1100 would be just about perfect in a .357 snub, especially a steel framed gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Dobbs View Post
    Has anybody chronographed it through 2" and 3" barrels? Darryl and I have long discussed that a 135 Gold Dot at about 1000-1100 would be just about perfect in a .357 snub, especially a steel framed gun.
    I just got two boxes specifically for my 3.5" Model 27 and 4" 28. I ll be interested to see what the velocity is at if I can get access to one. In my 2.5" 66, it may be right there numbers wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Dobbs View Post
    Has anybody chronographed it through 2" and 3" barrels? Darryl and I have long discussed that a 135 Gold Dot at about 1000-1100 would be just about perfect in a .357 snub, especially a steel framed gun.
    Speer claims 990 fps out of a 2" vented barrel for the 23917 short barrel .357 load. 860 fps for the .38 +P.

    Actually found some in stock at Lafayette Shooters. Apparently the only place in the country that has it. Well, less 2 boxes now.
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