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    Site Supporter jwperry's Avatar
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    Based on the OP's location, that's the standard range rules for any indoor range in the area and the closest outdoor range is likely 90+ minutes away..

    If you're allowed to do mag changes, practice mag changes. But as others have said, accuracy work, accuracy work, accuracy work. When I was stuck at ranges like yours, I worked on breathing control and sight alignment. Ball & dummy drills. Un-timed Casino Drill. Finding my balance and resting position with the gun at extension. This may sound dumb, but shooting with my eyes closed (helped to see if I was keeping control of the gun and driving it back to where it previously was or if it was wiggling everywhere).

    I also bought a little laser cartridge that I could put in my Sig and a little Laserlyte reactive target that I used at home. In total, it was around $120. Since I wasn't able to practice from the holster at the range, I made sure I practiced draw and DA trigger pulls at a reactive target when at home after the kids were in bed.

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    Slap the trigger drill.

    Work from low ready.

    5 shots in 5 seconds - a LOT can be done with that at 15-25 yards.

    Small bullseyes - even one at a time.

    2 @ 25 drill (Ben Stoeger) from, low ready

    Sight picture to time separated controlled pairs at 5-25 yards.

    I have found that RO's respond favorably when they come 'check' to see what you are doing to be able to show plausiby tight groups.

    Stray holes on my target were once (actually not just once) found to be from the ding dong in the lane NEXT to me...and you wonder why they have such rules.

    After a while they started sending frustrated shooters with 'broken' guns over to have me 'test' them. 5 precise/accurate shots later - yep, gun works fine, sights are on target, go back and work on your skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuanoLoco View Post
    Slap the trigger drill.

    Work from low ready.

    5 shots in 5 seconds - a LOT can be done with that at 15-25 yards.

    Small bullseyes - even one at a time.

    2 @ 25 drill (Ben Stoeger) from, low ready

    Sight picture to time separated controlled pairs at 5-25 yards.

    I have found that RO's respond favorably when they come 'check' to see what you are doing to be able to show plausiby tight groups.


    Stray holes on my target were once (actually not just once) found to be from the ding dong in the lane NEXT to me...and you wonder why they have such rules.

    After a while they started sending frustrated shooters with 'broken' guns over to have me 'test' them. 5 precise/accurate shots later - yep, gun works fine, sights are on target, go back and work on your skills.
    TL/DR Get to know the people that run the range, show that you can shoot safely and well and see what leeway they have to help you shoot the way you want to.

    I've had holes in my target at 25 from the dingbat in the next lane shooting at 5. I chose not to say anything to either the shooter or RSO, it's annoying but I wasn't sure what saying anything would have changed. My range has similar restrictions but the rules allow drawing from holster if the RSO has approved you. Ask the range officer or manager, there's no harm in asking and I've found the people running the range tend to be more sympathetic to people who turn up with a focused plan and shoot with a purpose.

    I've also asked the RSO to define rapid fire. I got a vague reply. By PF standards I am not quick and as I've got to know the RSOs at the range they've turned a blind eye to my "rapid fire", I've only been asked to desist once and that was the week of Thanksgiving just gone when the range was uber busy with people making their annual family pilgrimage to shoot. I was asked with a quiet word in the ear, the RSO saying he knew I was safe but didn't want people close by copying me. Fair enough, it was a bad day to shoot anyway, I wish my timer was more sensitive and I could use it freely at an indoor range.

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    When I shoot at similar ranges I split time between slow fire 25 yard work, which never hurts, presenting the weapon from ready and executing a very fast trigger pull with two good sight pictures at challenging ranges like 10-15 yards, and highly controlled pairs at 15. A bullseye 300 takes about fifteen to twenty minutes to do right, and with 'negative taping' the rapid trigger press drill can be done for just days on a single bull with no target changes.

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    Sorry for the late response, thank you all for the responses. Trying to get around to buying all the stuff I need to 'really' practice at a range I found that has some what more relaxed rules and I need some suggestions on what to get.

    I got a Pocket Pro II last week and need some targets along with an actual target stand. I'm looking at ordering 1 or 2 Nevco stands and the following paper targets from pistoleer.com
    QPT Target
    Casino Drill Target
    B-8's

    Do I NEED a target backer such as a cardboard USPSA target? I would prefer not to order them if I don't need them to set up targets since I'll probably shoot QPT's most of the time. If that isn't the case, I'll go ahead and find a place to order them.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnK View Post
    But there isn't any harm in asking and developing a rapport, I'd say.
    I have a couple of RO's that are cool with me and know I'm responsible with what I'm shooting but the head honcho there didn't like me putting up more than one 3x5 on the target despite my efforts to try and convince him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olim9 View Post
    Sorry for the late response, thank you all for the responses. Trying to get around to buying all the stuff I need to 'really' practice at a range I found that has some what more relaxed rules and I need some suggestions on what to get.

    I got a Pocket Pro II last week and need some targets along with an actual target stand. I'm looking at ordering 1 or 2 Nevco stands and the following paper targets from pistoleer.com
    QPT Target
    Casino Drill Target
    B-8's

    Do I NEED a target backer such as a cardboard USPSA target? I would prefer not to order them if I don't need them to set up targets since I'll probably shoot QPT's most of the time. If that isn't the case, I'll go ahead and find a place to order them.



    I have a couple of RO's that are cool with me and know I'm responsible with what I'm shooting but the head honcho there didn't like me putting up more than one 3x5 on the target despite my efforts to try and convince him.
    I guess the argument that 'just because he sucks balls at shooting doesn't mean that everyone should suck balls at shooting' won't fly?
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