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Thread: Best .38 Super factory load

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    Best .38 Super factory load

    I was wondering if folks on the list -- particularly, of course, Doc Roberts -- might have suggestions for the best possible Super factory load. One of my more frequent EDCs is a LWC in that chambering, and I do not love the Silvertips that I currently carry. If I have to load my own, I have no problem doing it. I have not yet slugged the barrel to see if I can run 158s.

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    I used Georgia Arms 147gr when I carried it. The loading's been discontinued, however.
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    Double-Tap also has some loads for the .38 Super.

    http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/cat...sCsid=afneznoc

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    Wonder what bullets they're using? Regular 9mm stuff is going to want to blow up early at those velocities, but .357SIG-specific GDHPs should work well...
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    IIRC, Mike said they used Gold Dots but I don't know if they're the .355 Magnum rounds.

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    Cor Bon has a 125gr DPX (Barnes bullet) load going at about 1350 fps from a 5" barrel.

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    There're a lot of .355" fans on this forum, and if I get the Gestalt the 147 grain weight seems to be favored. This blends well with my own slow-heavy inclinations. I see three 147 grain loads out there for the Super: Cor-Bon's, DoubleTap's, and Buffalo Bore's. Cor-Bon is sending an unknown JHP at 900 fps, which seems like it should be discarded out of hand. DT is pushing a Barnes TAC-XP at a reported 1450 (so let's guess 1350 in my Commander, optimistically), and BB is pushing an unknown JHP at what should be slightly more than 1100. I don't know how well the TAC is going to hold up at that velocity, and based on my general experience with DT I would expect that load to be very near overpressure, scary in my non-ramped Colt. The BB load would be attractive if I knew what bullet it was, and how that bullet does at those velocities.

    If I go with 124 grain bullets things open up quite a bit. There's my SilverTips, which probably aren't great. Cor-Bon has DPX at 1350, BB has an unknown at 1330, and Wilson has an XTP at 1330.

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    The problem with 147s, of course, is that they're almost all tuned to expand reliably at ~1000fps or even less, to make them useful out of a 9x19. Punch it up to 1200fps, and it could cost in the penetration department if it blows up too fast.

    I dunno... Maybe something like the XTP or Speer Unicor, which aren't that enthusiastic of expanders in the first place? I'm feeling deja vu...
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    Isn't the most popular load in the .355 Magnum the 125 grain anyway? Wouldn't it then follow that a 125 would make more sense for a Super?

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    Caleb,

    The .357SIG has that bitty case neck which makes heavier bullet loads problematic, so you've pretty much got to use flying dimes. All else being equal, I likes me some sectional density; I want to make sure that that bullet is going to get where it needs to go.

    (It's one of the things that makes me sad about that S&W 296 I keep in my purse; the thing turns into a kinetic bullet puller with anything over 200gr loads. Of course, it'd probably be too much of a handful to practice with with anything heavier, but it's the principle of the thing. )
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