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Thread: Which is harder, new IDPA Classifier or Classic?

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    Member rsa-otc's Avatar
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    Other than possibly David Ohlasso or James McGinty, none of the shooters I run with in IDPA have either seen someone shoot a Master class Classifier or know of someone how had. Most of the Masters I am familiar with other then David & James got their rank by a match bump.

    I have yet to shoot the new classifier, hopefully the beginning of next month, so I have no real opinion of the new classifier harder or easier.

    I will tell you that the new 1 second for each point down penalty has me rethinking may match strategy. Where I would not take a makeup shot for a -1 I am now giving it serious thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_White View Post
    I wouldn't dispute that that's part of it because I am pretty unfamiliar with IDPA match bumps and I really don't know. But, back when I first started shooting USPSA and barely squeaked into B-class, I could routinely shoot the old IDPA Classifier at the Master level, at least in practice.
    You shoot USPSA the hard way though .

    FWIW, a couple years ago I switched 100% to USPSA right after I shot the IDPA classifier at a master level in a match (around ~89 seconds), and also initially classified as a B, but partly due to the way USPSA initially classifies shooters by including every score you shoot, no matter how wide of a range the scores are. After a handful of matches to roll off a couple low anchor scores, I easily jumped to A and then M in a short time period. I always felt like USPSA initial classification lags a bit behind where a shooter really stands as a result, which leads to the common analogy that USPSA B = IDPA M.

    I most recently shot the old IDPA classifier in about 65 seconds last summer including about 4 points down for the course. I haven't spent any time on the new one yet, but just looking at the stages and knowing how my times would be, I would guess I would land in the 45-55 second range, so I don't think there would be a whole lot of difference in the margin I came in under M class scores. The change to 1 second per point down would certainly make it harder for shooters who drop more points to do well though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Nesbitt View Post
    I'm going to just shoot the way I always have and see what shakes out.

    Inaccurate shooters will have to learn accuracy without losing speed.
    I shot the Classifier twice today. I said I was just going to shoot the way I always have and see what shakes out. It's not very pretty. Too many points down. I guess I'll have to heed my own advice.

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    When I was B class in USPSA I shot a master IDPA classifier in SSP. I think I was like 1 second under the limit. Barely made it.

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    I finally got to shoot the new classifier. I have to say, it felt a lot easier. Seemed a lot faster to shoot too - that ought to help running larger groups of people through the classifier.

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    I like the new Classifier better and think it is easier physically (not from a marksmanship or speed perspective) because of the changes to Stage 3 String 2. I think the requirement in the old Classifier to kneel behind the barrel added a physical fitness measure to the Classifier to worry about in addition to speed and accuracy. I think the new Classifier eliminates that and now has speed and accuracy as a measure through all stages. If you had bad knees or were out of shape and not very flexible, shooting while kneeling behind the barrel and worrying about cover lines I think added some factors that interfered with measuring speed and accuracy. I find that in my matches, there are two things that usually trip me up more than my actual shooting skills (speed & accuracy) and that is physical fitness and being a bit ADD, so in others words, having physically demanding positions such as shooting from low ports USPSA style or forgetting critical parts of stage instructions and collecting Procedurals.

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