Is that steel cased ammo or did you have a ton of blowback?Originally Posted by JSGlock34
Is that steel cased ammo or did you have a ton of blowback?
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It was brass (I don't recall the brand, other than it was overpriced at this particular rental range).
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My experience with handgun reliability is that a significant factor in long term durability is slide speed. How a designer manages that variable between a hammer fired gun and striker gun is like comparing apples and oranges. Can't get to slow either as you need cases to eject, but that is also dependent upon other things. In general slower slide speed = better durability.
Last edited by Leroy; 12-03-2016 at 05:52 AM.
Well, I yielded to the siren song of temptation. As has been discussed, both on P-F and on some of the other sites, for whatever reason there seems to be a bit of an HK fire sale going on with some of the platforms, notably ones chambered in .40. The one I chose was the one I mentioned when I started this thread, a P30L in .40, with Meprolight tritium nightsights, priced a $659 (the retail on it is $1,028.97, and the normal volume dealer discount price is $877.56 without nightsights, or $999 with nightsights, albeit in LE mode, which provides both the night sights and 3 magazines vs. the 2 provided with mine)(pricing info off of Bud's Gunshop site, which I've found to be an excellent one for ascertaining accurate current discount/street pricing and model availability).
I suspect that HK may be doing a bit of warehouse accumulation cleaning; mine, for example is a 2014 production gun. I suspect that P30L V1s are probably not the most speedily moving sku, and aging nightsights probably played into the discounting decision, as well as 9mm platform sales (and forecasted sales) eroding/eclipsing .40 among both institutional and retail buyers, although this current quiet sale/discounting in unprecedented with HK for as long as I can remember (previous relative recent sales have involved a $200 rebate, and at one point HK was offering both .40 and .357 SIG barrels with some models). Or it may be an end-of-the-year accounting or tax positioning sort of motivation... Whatever the rationale, I'm exceptionally pleased to be an end-user beneficiary of someone's largess in HK-world.
The V1 provides me with a similar triggerpull weight with my VP40, and both models share the same magazines, which is a huge plus. Ergos are essentially identical, with slight differences in slide release levers, grip texturing, beavertail/rear tang curvature, and take-down process.
To date, I've cleaned and lubricated (using Weapon Shield as a general lubricant, and Lucas Red and Tacky #2 grease for areas of metal-on-metal bearing/reciprocation (barrel exterior, barrel cam/RSA lug interface points, slide muzzle ring interior, and slide/receiver rail areas).
Initial live-fire testing will probably commence later this week. It will be interesting concurrently running the P30L and the VP40. As I mentioned to another member, I do it all for science....
Last edited by JonInWA; 12-14-2016 at 02:02 PM.
RE: Durability of the HK weapons firing 40 S&W
Given that HK was one of the first to field a 40Cal handgun I would say that it was well researched and tested for LONG term reliability. The USP on up are well known for their reliability under the worst of conditions. As far as 40 Cal is concerned it has for the time being fallen out of favor. I personally have never been a fan of 9mm. I like a bit more bullet diameter. I just purchased a new P2000sk in 40. I was thinking of 9mm but stuck with the 40. So far the gun has been superb, Just as well built as my Bought new HE date code USP compact 40 stainless which in all these years has NEVER jammed. While I like my Kimber compact 45 and my S&W 629-4 Trail Boss the HK still is made to the same exacting standards. Something I can not say about todays S&Ws or even Kimbers.
The P30 might be a tad more robust but even as a reloader I doubt you could afford to wear out either a VP40 or P30 in .40 S&W. Both are good to go.
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I've certainly been pleased with both of mine. Since my initiation of this thread, which I started abour 5 years ago, the only minor issues I've expereinced were that my VP40 needed a triggerbar adjustment (I needed to pull the trigger to effect disassembly) and my P30L had the the Small backstrap replaced, with the new one more fitted to my individual P30L, due to a small amount of backstrap movement on the receiver frame when installed.
HK also retro-fitted my VP40 with the newer version of the trigger return spring bearing. As I've previously mentioned, I can't say enough about the absolutely superb service, advice and assistance I've received continuously from HK US CUstomer Service; they're a small, basically 4-person shop, but their work and turn-around times are excellent.
Best, Jon
We had a handful of P30s in 40S&W with our tactical unit. A number of them suffered from broken recoil spring guide rods. Rods fail at the angled cut and break clean off.
This has also happened occasionally with the P2000 but seemed more common with the P30. Smaller sample size in the hands of people who tend to shoot more.
Something to keep an eye on. Probably not a bad idea of keep an extra spring guide in the range bag for those who run the P30. Especially in 40 cal.
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H&K recoil spring assemblies are easy enough to detail apart and back together at my bench, but I'm not sure I could pull it off well in the field. I'd recommend carrying a whole assembly if you are going to keep a spare in the bag.
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That is rather concerning and surprising at the same time. I've never heard of this before but it has me thinking the USP really is what you need for a reliable .40 cal launcher. I need some JM Custom Kydex for mine to start carrying it some day.
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