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    Any good recommendations for a Semi-auto shotgun but in 20 gauge?


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    Does the answer change if we change "state of the art" to "ubiquitous/common/proven"?

    Does the answer change from competition to people-shooting? Not from a "yes because competition is dumb and has lesser consequences and we are willing to sacrifice reliability and longevity for [game]" but from a more practical standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montesf1030 View Post
    Any good recommendations for a Semi-auto shotgun but in 20 gauge?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Dobbs View Post
    What purpose(s)?
    Although I am not the one asking the initial question, I would be interested in any answers from the standpoint of home defense with recoil shy family members.


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    My agency and my experience with shotguns was as follows: HK/Benelli M-121, Beretta 1201 FP then Benelli M-2 with a small number of M-4's. My preference is the M4, But I did just by a basically unfired Beretta 1201FP for my place up north. We did utilize 870 pumps as dedicated less lethal platforms. Any of these shotguns would work A-ok as a primary arm as long
    as the operator knew how to use them. YMMV
    Ah....The Benelli M121. I miss mine. First semi auto I owned. Sold it for an SKB Tactical that was a really cool gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montesf1030 View Post
    Any good recommendations for a Semi-auto shotgun but in 20 gauge?
    Not a cheap one but a pretty turn key option: http://www.rivendellsales.com/Shotgun.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillSWPA View Post
    Although I am not the one asking the initial question, I would be interested in any answers from the standpoint of home defense with recoil shy family members.


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    Unless the weight of the shotgun is an issue, the 12 gauge LE 8 pellet reduced recoil 00 loads have about the same recoil as 20 gauge buckshot loads, but offer better terminal performance.

    *if your shotgun can cycle them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montesf1030 View Post
    Any good recommendations for a Semi-auto shotgun but in 20 gauge?


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    If you mean for that shotgun to be used for personal defense, you really gain nothing by using a 20 gauge. To get the same performance you want from a shotgun for anti-bad guy work you have to use loads that are at the upper end of the 20 gauge power spectrum and the package ends up offering more recoil than some of the good reduced recoil 12 gauge loads that perform very well against bad men and function in some of the more forgiving semi-auto 12 gauge shotguns.

    Quote Originally Posted by txdpd View Post
    Unless the weight of the shotgun is an issue, the 12 gauge LE 8 pellet reduced recoil 00 loads have about the same recoil as 20 gauge buckshot loads, but offer better terminal performance.

    *if your shotgun can cycle them.
    This. Recoil from the Federal Flite-Control 8 pellet 00 load is extremely mild, and my 1301 cycles those shells reliably. As does every other 1301 I've heard of.
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