I'd do the CZ personally. Though I wouldn't kick a Galil ACE out of bed.
I'd do the CZ personally. Though I wouldn't kick a Galil ACE out of bed.
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Originally Posted by Rack
Repeated failures to eject.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=UHm_j1pVrdE
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=UHm_j1pVrdE
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As far as I know Arsenal is G2G but I dont know very far to be fair. What I do know is that if you really want a high-dollar item you almost never regret forking over the dough for it but if you settle for something cheaper you almost always wish you had spent the extra money for the one you really wanted. So if you want the Arsenal, go for it.
Woah, the extractor just snapped in half. Is that a common AK issue? O_o
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Nope. Sample of one and all that, but interesting.Is that a common AK issue?
Interesting since this is one of the rifles DDI built using their own USA made parts.
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Well, I am in the minority here. I happen to like the mini-series rifles and owned several, including (2) mini-30s. One blued and one stainless Model. These rifles were made before the re-tooling, and the last series with the flip-up sights and .308 barrel.
Both guns were extremely reliable with the factory standard 5 shot magazines. I hunted and went target shooting with mine. These rifles are not match rifles, but have enough practical accuracy to hunt within short and medium range. Using American Eagle and USA (Winchester) 123 gr fmj both were 2-3 moa at a hundred yards. Chicom ammo was more like 3-4, somtimes more. I shot deer, coyotes, and high desert jack rabbits with the rifles. The 7.62x39 round kills small and medium game very well.
Short-comings of the mini-series [earlier series]:
1) magazines
2) stock iron sights
3) Light barrel (new series is fairly thin as well) .308 bore
3) Ammunition selection (domestic and brass cased most reliable)
4) Accessories (adding lights, certain optics, etc)
Strengths:
1) Reliability (5 shot mags)
2) Light and handy rifle with short length of pull on stock
3) Ranch series including mini-30 works great with a standard scope (loctite rings and screws)
4) With short magazines fits a saddle scabbard well for horseback or atv.
My familiarity with the new models is limited, but I expect the rifles will be comparable. Another consideration is the fact that these rifles, the mini-series, have been used extensively by the California Department of Corrections, San Bernardino County Sheriff's Office, and the California Highway Patrol. It is not a combat rifle, but works as light-duty patrol rifle or short-range hunting arm.
If you really like it buy one. It's a fun gun, I still kick myself for selling mine. I've seen them show up on CDNN for good prices.
P.S. If you buy one I wouldn't recommend shooting it without ear protection, indoors, or close to another shooter at a covered range (patio cover) it sounds like a howitzer.
Personally if I was buying a 7.62x39 gun my rankings would be:
1. Arsenal or similar quality AK
2. VZ-58
3. SKS
He's right. I have a VEPR and I love the gun, but it's probably a lot heavier than a semi-automatic rifle in this caliber needs to be.
Last edited by TCinVA; 11-17-2016 at 09:43 AM.
3/15/2016
Meh. Get a vz58 if you want something unique in the caliber, and if you don't have an AK take a hard look at Vepr units (can get them already converted if you don't want the effort).
I dan't come up with any good reason to have a Ruger Mini in any flavor, unless your only rifles you've ever had in life (and will never deviate from) include the M1 carbine, M1A, or M1 Garand.
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I am leaning toward a high-quality AK variant, though the DDI failure video (when DDI is a pretty well-regarded option) has me somewhat leery.
I also might be able to justify a CZ or Howa bolt gun as well, since Scout Rifle and AK-type are very different roles.
It feels like my initial craving several years ago of an Arsenal may have been right on the money. Just need to follow buy-once-cry-once.
The hipster part of me things the Galil or 58 would be fun just to have something a bit different from a run-of-the-mill AK. Especially since I only plan to get the one AK-type so accessory interchangeability isn't huge.
I still might get the Mini someday, but I'll wait until someone local is selling one cheap.
Last edited by LockedBreech; 11-17-2016 at 10:18 AM.
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