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    I shot this today cold with a Glock 22 from concealment at the AIWB position using a DSG holster. I made a video because that's what I do.



    Times were asscrap.

    Bill Drill: 2.66-0.25 = 2.41
    F2S Drill: 2.64+0.25-0.25 = 2.64
    2x head: 2.13+0.25+0.25-0.25 = 2.38
    4x body 2 head: 2.95+0.25-0.25 = 2.95

    One note, I made this harder than it needed to be because instead of shooting a 3x5 card I shot the credit card in the USPSA head box. Even shooting a harder version with the leeetle head box, I would have light-pinned everything except for the F2S drill, which was total bullshit because I know I can shoot that a lot faster.

    Tomorrow I'm going to set it up again and shoot the whole thing balls out, eat more B/C hits and see how it affects me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caleb View Post
    I shot this today cold with a Glock 22 from concealment at the AIWB position using a DSG holster. I made a video because that's what I do.

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    Times were asscrap.

    Bill Drill: 2.66-0.25 = 2.41
    F2S Drill: 2.64+0.25-0.25 = 2.64
    2x head: 2.13+0.25+0.25-0.25 = 2.38
    4x body 2 head: 2.95+0.25-0.25 = 2.95

    One note, I made this harder than it needed to be because instead of shooting a 3x5 card I shot the credit card in the USPSA head box. Even shooting a harder version with the leeetle head box, I would have light-pinned everything except for the F2S drill, which was total bullshit because I know I can shoot that a lot faster.

    Tomorrow I'm going to set it up again and shoot the whole thing balls out, eat more B/C hits and see how it affects me.
    Watching the video, I could swear you did the last drill as a 5+1 instead of a 4+2, but you have the right amount of hits in the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MVS View Post
    Watching the video, I could swear you did the last drill as a 5+1 instead of a 4+2, but you have the right amount of hits in the head.
    So I absolutely smoked the transition from body into head, and called the shot nearly come off the target entirely so I slammed on the brakes hard and was like "get a fucken hit, dickhead."


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    Gabe, I made shooting your standards a priority for this year. It works perfectly to evaluate my progress since it's basic draw and shoot X rounds in X time drills.

    Caleb, I just recently came across your channel on the tube and it's filled with great stuff! I am giving Appendix carry a real shot now that the Gadget is here and I carry Glocks.

    For the past few years I've shot 10k rounds or so per year through a couple G26s from IWB. Now that I've been working from Appendix I see the limitations of the short grip for drawing. I tried a pinky extension but they end up forcing me to point down as a squeeze the grip and shoot for speed.

    I squeezed a shit ton of accuracy out of the 26. I'm hoping I can do the same with the 19, but with greater speed.

    Thanks for the valuable info guys, it's really helping me progress.

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    Super cool GAP, can't wait to hear how it goes!
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    I've not touched a pistol since before Thanksgiving. Today I decided it was finally time to get back on the horse. I started with the Humbler, cold. (555/700), let's not talk about that. Anyway, after that, I decided to punish myself further and shoot Mr White's standards. I'm registered for his April class in GA and figured I'd better get a baseline to work from. Whatever version I was looking at had the 2 to the head and F2S strings reversed so you'll see the times as
    Bill Drill
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    2 to head
    Reverse FAST

    I shot my Gen 4 G17 from IWB @ 3:30 under a polo.



    The zero on the second 2 to head run...just a little low:



    Today would've gotten me a light pin. Not bad for 8 weeks cold I guess. Hopefully over the next two months I can get to some Turbo times. All in the draw I think. My average draw today was about 1.7 with my fastest at 1.5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_White View Post
    Super cool GAP, can't wait to hear how it goes!
    I'm going to tackle these one at a time then try to do them cold, on demand.

    Today I did "Two to the Head" on an index card using a Glock 19 in a JM Custom George AIWB, concealed under a fleece pullover.

    I didn't realize until after the fact that I get a .25 bonus for using concealment.

    Conclusion: I'm curious to see how the other drills go, but I am certainly much faster with a Glock 19 from appendix than I ever was with a Glock 26 from behind my hip. I'm pretty excited since speed was my primary concern and it seems appendix + longer G19 grip solved that for me.

    My three best runs today were:
    1.95 - .25 = 1.7
    1.85 - .25 = 1.6
    1.84 - .25 = 1.59

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    Gabe, have you mentioned somewhere why you chose to not use any type of reload for any of the standards? To keep it street, not competition?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAP View Post
    I'm going to tackle these one at a time then try to do them cold, on demand.

    Today I did "Two to the Head" on an index card using a Glock 19 in a JM Custom George AIWB, concealed under a fleece pullover.

    I didn't realize until after the fact that I get a .25 bonus for using concealment.

    Conclusion: I'm curious to see how the other drills go, but I am certainly much faster with a Glock 19 from appendix than I ever was with a Glock 26 from behind my hip. I'm pretty excited since speed was my primary concern and it seems appendix + longer G19 grip solved that for me.

    My three best runs today were:
    1.95 - .25 = 1.7
    1.85 - .25 = 1.6
    1.84 - .25 = 1.59
    Excellent GAP! Curious to hear how you end up feeling the four different drills compare. So far there seems to be a trend but I surmise individual shooter strengths might throw a couple curves into that.
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