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    I don't pretend to be anyone special or even a good shooter, but I tried the GW standards today and they owned me.

    First time at all shooting any kind of bill drill or Mozambique.

    Boy good shooters sure make it look easy.


    All shooting was done with a bone stock gen 4 G.19 AIWB.


    Also my new Warren Sevigny sights for that Glock can't come soon enough! Fuck the "dovetail protectors" Glocks come with.
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    I finished up a training session with some GW drills with the SBH Bisley .44. If I'm going to carry this beast in Alaska this summer, I wanted to see what I can do with it. FYI, I'm NOT a revolver guy and never have been, and I had a ton of fun doing this.

    Gun: Ruger Super Blackhawk Bisley 3.75" .44 mag, High Viz FO sights.
    Holster: Simply Rugged Sourdough Pancake
    Ammo: Full power 240gr reloads

    Bill: 5.07s + 0.5 = 5.57s
    F2S: 2.59s (Dark level)
    2H: 2.32s (Light level)

    I'll do a full set of drills from concealment soon.

    For a frame of reference, I was doing about 1.3Xs draws and 0.6Xs splits. I found that the key to a "fast" draw was getting the thumb on the hammer at the beginning of the draw, and cocking it during presentation.

    Last edited by Clusterfrack; 05-08-2017 at 11:22 AM.
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    That is awesome, Clusterfrack, thanks for sharing that!
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    Gabe White Standards

    Here's a full set of GW Drills with the SBH Bisley .44.

    Gun: Ruger Super Blackhawk Bisley 3.75" .44 mag, High Viz FO sights.
    Holster: Simply Rugged Sourdough Pancake
    Ammo: Full power 240gr reloads
    Concealment: IDPA type vest
    Notes: As before, I did not have much difficulty beating the Light time for 2H. Given the main use (grizzly defense), limited capacity, and glacial speed of reloading, I think this is by far the most important drill--so that's encouraging. It's been years since I've shot IDPA, and the concealment garment felt unfamiliar. I don't think I netted any time on the draws from concealment. On the very first run I pushed it too fast on the draw, and ended up cocking the gun before it fully cleared the holster. My finger wasn't in the trigger guard, but I did not like this one bit. I backed off a bit on the draw speed, focused on a good master grip, and only cocked the gun when it was pointed downrange for the rest of the session. There is plenty of time to thumb back the hammer during the final part of the presentation.

    (Total time after penalties and concealment in parentheses)
    F2S
    3.67 (3.42)
    3.55 +.25 (3.55)
    3.03 (1.69, .68,.67) (2.78) Dark

    2H
    2.74 (2.49) Light
    2.75 (2.50) Light
    2.83 (2.58) Dark

    4B2H
    6.06 +1.5 (7.31)
    7.33 +.5 (7.58)

    Bill
    5.43 +.25 (5.43)
    5.44 (5.19)



    Last edited by Clusterfrack; 05-11-2017 at 08:50 PM.
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  5. #105
    What hand do you cock the hammer with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GJM View Post
    What hand do you cock the hammer with?
    Right hand, unless I'm shooting support hand.
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  7. #107
    I preferred cocking with my support hand, but can think of a number of reasons why that support hand might not be available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    Here's a full set of GW Drills with the SBH Bisley .44.

    Gun: Ruger Super Blackhawk Bisley 3.75" .44 mag, High Viz FO sights.
    Holster: Simply Rugged Sourdough Pancake
    Ammo: Full power 240gr reloads
    Concealment: IDPA type vest
    Notes: As before, I did not have much difficulty beating the Light time for 2H. Given the main use (grizzly defense), limited capacity, and glacial speed of reloading, I think this is by far the most important drill--so that's encouraging. It's been years since I've shot IDPA, and the concealment garment felt unfamiliar. I don't think I netted any time on the draws from concealment. On the very first run I pushed it too fast on the draw, and ended up cocking the gun before it fully cleared the holster. My finger wasn't in the trigger guard, but I did not like this one bit. I backed off a bit on the draw speed, focused on a good master grip, and only cocked the gun when it was pointed downrange for the rest of the session. There is plenty of time to thumb back the hammer during the final part of the presentation.

    (Total time after penalties and concealment in parentheses)
    F2S
    3.67 (3.42)
    3.55 +.25 (3.55)
    3.03 (1.69, .68,.67) (2.78) Dark

    2H
    2.74 (2.49) Light
    2.75 (2.50) Light
    2.83 (2.58) Dark

    4B2H
    6.06 +1.5 (7.31)
    7.33 +.5 (7.58)

    Bill
    5.43 +.25 (5.43)
    5.44 (5.19)



    That is so cool. You should link up with Larry Mudgett of Marksmanship Matters. He's a cool guy and CRAZY about single actions for just about all purposes I think.

    That is a wicked cool revolver. I would so love one in the smaller frame size configured like that in .357 with a 9mm cylinder or .45 with an ACP option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    That is so cool. You should link up with Larry Mudgett of Marksmanship Matters. He's a cool guy and CRAZY about single actions for just about all purposes I think.

    That is a wicked cool revolver. I would so love one in the smaller frame size configured like that in .357 with a 9mm cylinder or .45 with an ACP option.
    This is my fav single action revolver.

    Likes pretty much everything in every caliber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    That is so cool. You should link up with Larry Mudgett of Marksmanship Matters. He's a cool guy and CRAZY about single actions for just about all purposes I think.

    That is a wicked cool revolver. I would so love one in the smaller frame size configured like that in .357 with a 9mm cylinder or .45 with an ACP option.
    Thanks JHC. I love a challenge but this will probably be my one and only revolver. A Glock or P320 just feels so much more natural to me... Next up, some Turbo times with a modern handgun!
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