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    Modding this sack of shit BehindBlueI's's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clusterfrack View Post
    It is interesting to consider how much of a handicap there is to start with hands out of pockets. It's at least 1-2 seconds for my pants pockets under ideal conditions. Not good... Did I recall that @BehindBlueI's had some data on this?
    Pocket carry was great against street robbers for the obvious reasons. They expect you to put your hand in your pocket and the 'timer' doesn't start until they realize you are not complying. I've seen almost no robbery suspects pat anyone down or go in their pockets themselves. I think to maintain distance and just a general expectation of compliance.

    Obviously not ideal for counter-ambush situations. I think if someone wants to carry two guns, AIWB and pocket combo is a good one where each carry position covers the weakness of the other. AIWB is harder to disguise a draw from, pocket is slow outside of disguised draws, and pocket is excellent for retention so you're not fighting over two guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BehindBlueI's View Post
    Obviously not ideal for counter-ambush situations. I think if someone wants to carry two guns, AIWB and pocket combo is a good one where each carry position covers the weakness of the other. AIWB is harder to disguise a draw from, pocket is slow outside of disguised draws, and pocket is excellent for retention so you're not fighting over two guns.
    Your expertise is why I pocket carry lefty to supplement my AIWB primary… and when I don’t carry a primary I still keep it there for continuity in training and execution.

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    First real range session with Alien



    Still fighting the difference in index between my normal CZs and the Alien.

    Was good enough for 7 of 8 runs in Turbo par times.

    The one Light pin run was the second Bill when I indexed high and had a Charlie due to grip angle.

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    Ran today with a wheelie! (686 ssr with sro and nills from comp gear). 20.74 agg plus .25 for the missed 3x5 is a 20.99 if i'm recalling scoring correctly. Almost light pin territory. Long way from getting a turbo with a wheelie


    Bill 1


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    IIC 1


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    I ran them today SHO as part of a whole SHO session.


    Bill 1 - 4.86 -1 (4.86 corrected, with a 2.16 draw and splits between .51-.58)

    Bill 2 - 4.63 (4.38 corrected, with a 2.16 draw and .47-.56 splits)



    F2S 1 - 3.22 (2.97 corrected, 1.87 draw and .62 and .73 splits)

    F2S 2 - 3.30 (3.05 corrected, 1.8 draw and .71 and .79 splits)



    IC 1 - 2.89 (2.64 corrected, 2.05 draw and .84 split)

    IC 2 - 2.65 (2.40 corrected, 1.87 draw and .78 split)



    SB1 5.67 -2 (5.92 corrected, 2.10 draw and .57-.64 body splits, .71 and 1.05 head split)

    SB2 5.48 (5.23 corrected, 2.21 draw, .51-.57 body splits, and .87 and .78 head split)


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  6. #196
    Shot 2024-06-01

    P365XL chopped macro frame boresight large razorback. Eps carry circle only

    Bill Drill 1) 2.61 - 0 25 for concealment = 2.36 Light

    Bill Drill 2) 2.70 - 0.25 + 0.25 = 2.70 Dark

    Failure to Stop 1) 2.47 - 0.25 = 2.22 Light

    Failure to Stop 2) 2.41 - 0.25 = 2.16 Light

    Immediate Incapacitation Drill 1) 2.42 - 0.25 = 2.17 Light

    Immediate Incapacitation Drill 2) 2.53 - 0.25 = 2.28 Light

    Split Bill Drill 1) 3.70 - 0.25 = 3.45 Light

    Split Bill Drill 2) 3.38 - 0.25 + 0.25 + 1 = 4.38 Dark

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  7. #197
    Quote Originally Posted by scw2 View Post
    Mr White or anyone else, are there any tips you'd provide for improving on the 2 to head? Is the best way to practice the draw to a smallish target without cheating the grip, then for the follow up shots work on something like Garcia dots? I find I either go too fast and drop tons of shots, or really slow to clean it.
    For me I do 25 yard head shot draws. Makes the close one feel huge

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