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    All that fuss over +P+

    The recent thread about the Federal 115gr +P+ reminded me of something I have wanted to do for some time now. Crony that load in various size pistols I have. I already had some Speer 115gr +P+ Gold Dots on hand so thought I would add that also. So went go over to SG ammo to grab some of the 9PBLE and noticed they had some Federal Hydra-Shok 124gr +P+ on hand, so two boxes of that also went in the cart. Unfortunately the Winchester 127gr Ranger-T was out of stock. Thinking how nice it would have been to try it out I found an alternate source and picked up two boxes of that also. That was going to be all until I saw that Midway had some Magtech 115gr +P+ on hand. What the hell might as well. So one more is added to the mix. Then a friend tells me he is going to order some stuff from Underwood. I was going to pass on the boutique ammo companies but what could a few more hurt. So I added their 115gr bonded and the 124gr Gold Dot.

    Some things of interest. The Magtech was probably the brightest muzzle flash I have ever seen for a pistol in any caliber. The Federal Hydra-shok had the lowest velocity of all he +P+ loads in all the guns tested. It was even lower than the Speer 124gr +P Gold Dot that I included for comparison. I'm not sure why the velocity so low for a +P+ loading but I find it very odd.

    I also included some Winchester 124gr ball standard pressure.

    The pistols used where the Beretta 92A1, Sig P226, Glock 19, S&W M&P9c, and the Kahr MK9.
    I'm going to start off with the Beretta and then add the rest as the week goes on. I’m not sure if I should add the rest to this thread or start a new thread for each pistol. If anyone has input on that let me know.


    Beretta 92A1 4.9in Barrel.
    Highest overall average velocity was with Underwood 115gr JHP at 1380fps
    Lowest overall average velocity was with Federal 124gr Hydra-shok at 1149fps

    Magtech 115 JHP
    Average 1370
    High 1386
    Low 1327
    Energy 479

    Underwood 115 JHP
    Average 1380
    High 1422
    Low 1342
    Energy 487

    Underwood 124 GDHP
    Average 1306
    High 1310
    Low 1300
    Energy 470

    Winchester 127gr Ranger-T
    Average 1240
    High 1258
    Low 1217
    Energy 434

    Federal Hydra-shok 124gr
    Average 1149
    High 1160
    Low 1142
    Energy 363

    Speer GDHP 115gr
    Average 1328
    High 1349
    Low 1314
    Energy 450

    Federal JHP115gr
    Average 1303
    High 1324
    Low 1282
    Energy 450

    Speer GDHP 124gr +P
    Average 1203
    High 1224
    Low 1190
    Energy 398

    Winchester 124 FMJ
    Average 1084
    High 1099
    Low 1074
    Energy 324



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    Site Supporter Totem Polar's Avatar
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    Cool. Will follow. 1370-1380 is moving right along. So is 124 grains at 1300+.

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    Sig P226 4.4in barrel
    Highest overall average velocity was with Underwood 115gr JHP at 1396fps
    Lowest overall average velocity was with Federal 124gr Hydra-shok at 1138fps

    Magtech 115 JHP
    Average 1351
    High 1355
    Low 1343
    Energy 466

    Underwood 115 JHP
    Average 1396
    High 1411
    Low 1372
    Energy 498

    Underwood 124 GDHP
    Average 1287
    High 1315
    Low 1242
    Energy 456

    Winchester 127gr Ranger-T
    Average 1238
    High 1253
    Low 1220
    Energy 432

    Federal Hydra-shok 124gr
    Average 1138
    High 1149
    Low 1126
    Energy 357

    Speer GDHP 115gr
    Average 1297
    High 1317
    Low 1282
    Energy 430


    Federal JHP115gr
    Average 1282
    High 1293
    Low 1272
    Energy 420

    Speer GDHP 124gr +P
    Average 1193
    High 1204
    Low 1182
    Energy 392

    Winchester 124 FMJ
    Average 1076
    High 1092
    Low 1065
    Energy 319



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    Member Al T.'s Avatar
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    Very interesting, thanks.

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    For me the Gold Dot 124 is right in the "sweet spot" of controlability, performance and bullet weight. Thanks for the chrono work!


    Speer GDHP 124gr +P
    Average 1193
    High 1204
    Low 1182
    Energy 392
    Last edited by FNFAN; 10-02-2016 at 09:13 AM.
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    Glock 19 4in barrel
    Highest overall average velocity was with Underwood 115gr JHP at 1393fps
    Lowest overall average velocity was with Federal 124gr Hydra-shok at 1129fps

    Magtech 115 JHP
    Average 1372
    High 1391
    Low 1355
    Energy 481

    Underwood 115 JHP
    Average 1393
    High 1419
    Low 1341
    Energy 496

    Underwood 124 GDHP
    Average 1257
    High 1283
    Low 1197
    Energy 435

    Winchester 127gr Ranger-T
    Average 1237
    High 1249
    Low 1232
    Energy 431

    Federal Hydra-shok 124gr
    Average 1129
    High 1136
    Low 1120
    Energy 351

    Speer GDHP 115gr
    Average 1269
    High 1314
    Low 1273
    Energy 429


    Federal JHP 115gr
    Average 1258
    High 1278
    Low 1241
    Energy 404

    Speer GDHP 124gr +P
    Average 1182
    High 1199
    Low 1161
    Energy 385

    Winchester 124 FMJ
    Average 1043
    High 1062
    Low 1065
    Energy 299



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    Quote Originally Posted by FNFAN View Post
    For me the Gold Dot 124 is right in the "sweet spot" of controlability, performance and bullet weight. Thanks for the chrono work!


    Speer GDHP 124gr +P
    Average 1193
    High 1204
    Low 1182
    Energy 392

    That's my carry load also and I don't see myself changing anytime soon.

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    M&P 9c 3.5in barrel
    Highest overall average velocity was with Underwood 115gr JHP at 1362fps
    Lowest overall average velocity was with Federal 124gr Hydra-shok at 1098fps

    Magtech 115 JHP
    Average 1290
    High 1316
    Low 1266
    Energy 425

    Underwood 115 JHP
    Average 1362
    High 1390
    Low 1346
    Energy 474

    Underwood 124 GDHP
    Average 1236
    High 1251
    Low 1224
    Energy 421

    Winchester 127gr Ranger-T
    Average 1204
    High 1223
    Low 1174
    Energy 431

    Federal Hydra-shok 124gr
    Average 1098
    High 1113
    Low 1084
    Energy 332

    Speer GDHP 115gr
    Average 1232
    High 1260
    Low 1198
    Energy 431


    Federal JHP 115gr
    Average 1225
    High 1242
    Low 1196
    Energy 383

    Speer GDHP 124gr +P
    Average 1145
    High 1161
    Low 1120
    Energy 361

    Winchester 124 FMJ
    Average 1033
    High 1062
    Low 1011
    Energy 294



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    M&P 9c 3.5in barrel
    Highest overall average velocity was with Underwood 115gr JHP at 1281fps
    Lowest overall average velocity was with Federal 124gr Hydra-shok at 1036fps

    Magtech 115 JHP
    Average 1221
    High 1246
    Low 1207
    Energy 381

    Underwood 115 JHP
    Average 1281
    High 1325
    Low 1261
    Energy 419

    Underwood 124 GDHP
    Average 1182
    High 1188
    Low 1177
    Energy 384

    Winchester 127gr Ranger-T
    Average 1139
    High 1145
    Low 1128
    Energy 366

    Federal Hydra-shok 124gr
    Average 1036
    High 1044
    Low 1023
    Energy 295

    Speer GDHP 115gr
    Average 1168
    High 1192
    Low 1152
    Energy 348


    Federal JHP 115gr
    Average 1150
    High 1157
    Low 1138
    Energy 338

    Speer GDHP 124gr +P
    Average 1061
    High 1076
    Low 1041
    Energy 310

    Winchester 124 FMJ
    Average 954
    High 973.9
    Low 929.8
    Energy 251



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    My last post should have been the Kahr MK9 with a 3in barrel.

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