380 acp vs 22 magnum?

[Hambo]

That is to say, they're both at the upper end of "I sure hope this works" rather than "I have confidence this will work."

FIFY, except that a lot of people don't understand the difference between the two, so they're sure anything will work.

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I think a .22 mag would be an excellent self defense rifle for the average person.

I love the .22 Magnum, it is my favorite general purpose cartridge in a bolt gun for killing smallish things that need killing. With that in mind, out of a handgun it's...not so great. .380 ACP ammo is going to be easier to find, of better quality, and there is an abundance of excellent .380 handguns on the market right now.

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Just did some research an a .22 WMR semi auto rifle. Turns out it's not such a great idea.

I think a .22 mag would be an excellent self defense rifle for the average person.

[jetfire]

Just did some research an a .22 WMR semi auto rifle. Turns out it's not such a great idea.

The Ruger 10/22 Magnum was about the only .22 WMR semi-auto that was worth a crap, but it was relatively expensive to make and was a low interest item, so they stopped making them. It was a cool little gun, but just never sold that well. I still have a Marlin 25M bolt gun in .22 Magnum that I've killed a lot of things with, and on anything up to a small coyote, .22 WMR is hot death.

Out of a 22 inch long rifle barrel, mind you.

[Joe in PNG]

The Ruger 10/22 Magnum was about the only .22 WMR semi-auto that was worth a crap, but it was relatively expensive to make and was a low interest item, so they stopped making them. It was a cool little gun, but just never sold that well. I still have a Marlin 25M bolt gun in .22 Magnum that I've killed a lot of things with, and on anything up to a small coyote, .22 WMR is hot death.
Out of a 22 inch long rifle barrel, mind you.

Making prairie dogs blow up real good!

[SJC3081]

The Ruger 10/22 Magnum was about the only .22 WMR semi-auto that was worth a crap, but it was relatively expensive to make and was a low interest item, so they stopped making them. It was a cool little gun, but just never sold that well. I still have a Marlin 25M bolt gun in .22 Magnum that I've killed a lot of things with, and on anything up to a small coyote, .22 WMR is hot death.

Out of a 22 inch long rifle barrel, mind you.

The Ruger 10/22 mag sold like hot cakes, but had extraction issues and broken bolt problems. I had single extractor model and sold it to get a Greek G3.

[GJM]

I think a .22 mag would be an excellent self defense rifle for the average person.

The Ruger 10/22 Magnum was about the only .22 WMR semi-auto that was worth a crap, but it was relatively expensive to make and was a low interest item, so they stopped making them. It was a cool little gun, but just never sold that well. I still have a Marlin 25M bolt gun in .22 Magnum that I've killed a lot of things with, and on anything up to a small coyote, .22 WMR is hot death.

Out of a 22 inch long rifle barrel, mind you.

Just did some research an a .22 WMR semi auto rifle. Turns out it's not such a great idea.

Reading this article, I am not see material difference between .22 magnum out of a J frame vs a 22 inch barrel?

https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...-self-defense/

[Tamara]

The Ruger 10/22 Magnum was about the only .22 WMR semi-auto that was worth a crap...

The problem with straight blowback .22WMR guns is folks treat them like regular .22LR guns, cleaning them hardly ever and firing them at the cyclic.

A slightly out-of-battery discharge in a .22LR is moderately exciting, but in a .22WMR gun it can get mighty sporty.

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I didn't bother to read the article but that's not possible. http://ballisticsbytheinch.com/22mag.html
CZ and Savage both have a .22 magnum semi auto rifle using a delayed blowback.

Reading this article, I am not see material difference between .22 magnum out of a J frame vs a 22 inch barrel?

https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...-self-defense/

[GJM]

I didn't bother to read the article but that's not possible. http://ballisticsbytheinch.com/22mag.html
CZ and Savage both have a .22 magnum semi auto rifle using a delayed blowback.

I am referring to penetration, not velocity.