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  1. #21
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    Another run for me, this time with:
    Glock 19 G4
    JMCK AIWB under a polo shirt

    Bill
    2.32
    2.27

    F2s
    2.24c
    2.13 m

    2h
    2.30
    1.99

    4b2h
    3.16c
    3.08

    19.49 +2.5 -2 = 19.99

    These are the first shots I've put through a G19 in a while. I've decided to switch back to Glock for carry, and it was good to confirm that I can still shoot them ok.
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    Gen 3 G19 w/RMR in Fricke Archangel. Pullover concealment.
    USPSA and 3X5

    String 1) 3.61 -.25=3.36
    String 2) 2.68 3Cs +.75-.25=3.18
    String 3) 2.79 -.25=2.54
    String 4) 2.65 -.25=2.4
    String 5) 2.41 -.25=2.16
    String 6) 2.38 -.25=2.13
    String 7) 3.91 -.25=3.66
    String 8) 3.87 -.25=3.62

    Total= 23.05

    Haven't done Bill drills in quite some time and it seemed to show. Those felt really slow.
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    I really wanted to run this, I couldn't find a index card and it was getting dark so I cheated and shot this using the head box told myself I was only using the upper half but none the less, I cheated. I will find my cards and re shoot it. If it makes it any better these were shot cold and at dusk.


    Uspsa production rig
    Tanfo stock ii
    Hand loads

    Strong 1. 1.87 clean
    String 2. 1.83 clean
    String 3. 1.70 clean
    String 4. 1.63 + .25 (almost broke the perf lol, threw it right over the top)
    String 5. 1.77 clean - bad draw
    String 6. 1.53 clean
    String 7. 2.57 slooooow but clean
    String 8. 2.54 Sloooow but clean

    15.44 raw time
    15.69 corrected


    Things I noticed:
    Took my time on the bill drill knowing I could screw up bad there, most BD's have .14 or below splits and this on stayed around .18

    Got cocky on the F2S drill and screwed up.

    String 7&8 just felt so slow, I know I can do better.
    Last edited by Luke; 10-03-2016 at 06:19 PM.
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    Finally got to shoot another DOTW. Wish I wouldn't have blown as much but oh well.

    USPSA target with index card head.
    G19 JM AIWB under t-shirt. All times subtracted .25
    Think I have my scoring right.

    1)3.61 2C +.50 = 3.86
    2)3.34 1C +.25 = 3.34
    3)2.76 CLEAN = 2.51
    4)2.99 M on H = 4.99 missed a head shot completely, really sucked
    5)2.77 1B +.25 = 2.77 just missed high on head shot
    6)2.33 1B +.25 = 2.33 missed high on head shot again
    7)3.79 1B +.25 = 3.79 SUCKIN ON SOME HEADSHOTS
    8)4.00 1B +.25 = 4.00

    Total time = 27.59

    Meant to take picture of target after, Mr. homeowner came out to shoot with me (his property), got my stuff done and cleaned up. Had just shot some FAST's, having some struggles to make head shots, really need to work on index cards from the draw and under time pressure. Bill drills need big work.
    The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me.

    Humbly improving with CZ's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke View Post


    Strong 1. 1.87 clean
    String 2. 1.83 clean
    String 3. 1.70 clean
    String 4. 1.63 + .25 (almost broke the perf lol, threw it right over the top)
    String 5. 1.77 clean - bad draw
    String 6. 1.53 clean
    String 7. 2.57 slooooow but clean
    String 8. 2.54 Sloooow but clean

    15.44 raw time
    15.69 corrected


    String 7&8 just felt so slow, I know I can do better.

    Damn bro! Smokin times, those bill drills are fast.
    The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me.

    Humbly improving with CZ's.
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  6. #26
    Ran his exercise today trying to compare a G19MOS w/ RMR to my VP9. Wanted to see what worked better. Unfortunately, I am retarded and tried to do it from memory and forgot about the 2H strings.

    All strings shot on USPSA Target w/ 3x5 using S&B 115 and hands at sides.

    G19MOS + RMR 06
    Raven Phantom

    6B: 3.30 -00 3.30
    6B: 2.70 -3B 3.45
    4B2H: 4.14 -1B 4.39
    4B2H: 5.02 -00 5.02 Fumbled draw on this one and lost time.
    2B1H: 3.86 -00 3.86
    2B1H: 3.33 -00 3.33

    Total: 23.35

    VP9 + Heine sights. (wide rear notch)
    Raven Phantom

    6B: 3.68 -3B 4.43
    6B: 3.07 -1B 3.32
    4B2H: 4.14 -2B 4.64
    4B2H: 5.11 -2B 5.61 Had trouble picking up the front sight on this string as I went for the head.
    2B1H: 3.52 -00 3.52
    2B1H: 3.65 -00 3.65

    Total: 25.17

    Im surprised that I shot the RMR better than the VP9. 2 weeks ago I was really struggling (its relative) with the RMR and was ready to pull it off. Instead I decided to spend some more quality time dry firing and working on my presentation so I wasnt hunting for the dot as much.

    I'm slow and need a LOT of work, but this is a good base line to come back to and quantify progress.

    Thanks for posting the exercise.
    Last edited by TAZ; 10-08-2016 at 09:44 PM.
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    I shot four of these. These 3 from concealment of a OWB holster concealed by a leather jacket. I shot the fourth round, highly warmed up with the G19/KKM comp a 2nd time without concealment; open OWB.


    First one shot nearly cold (only a few shots slowfire prior)

    Concealment
    G19 KKM Comp Time Penalty .25 deduction Score
    Bill Drill 1 2.88 0.75 0.25 3.38
    Bill Drill 2 2.86 0.5 0.25 3.11
    F2S 3 2.23 0 0.25 1.98
    F2S 4 2.12 0.5 0.25 2.37
    D2 to H 5 2.05 0 0.25 1.8
    D2 to H 6 2.58 0 0.25 2.33
    4B - 2H 7 3.4 0 0.25 3.15
    4B - 2H 8 3.33 0.25 0.25 3.33



    Total penalties 2.0 Score 21.45
    Last edited by JHC; 10-09-2016 at 11:09 AM.
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    Next I shot the Gen 4 G22 from concealment


    Concealment
    G22 Time Penalty .25 deduction Score
    Bill Drill 1 4.02 0 0.25 3.77
    Bill Drill 2 3.58 0.25 0.25 3.58
    F2S 3 2.9 0 0.25 2.65
    F2S 4 2.78 0 0.25 2.53
    D2 to H 5 2.66 0 0.25 2.41
    D2 to H 6 2.47 0 0.25 2.22
    4B - 2H 7 3.94 0 0.25 3.69
    4B - 2H 8 3.61 0 0.25 3.36



    Total penalties 0.25 Score 24.21
    Last edited by JHC; 10-09-2016 at 11:12 AM.
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    Third I shot the G43.

    Concealment
    G43 Time Penalty .25 deduction Score
    Bill Drill 1 3.02 0.25 0.25 3.02
    Bill Drill 2 2.56 0.75 0.25 3.06
    F2S 3 2.29 0.25 0.25 2.29
    F2S 4 2.41 0 0.25 2.16
    D2 to H 5 2.2 0 0.25 1.95
    D2 to H 6 2.13 0 0.25 1.88
    4B - 2H 7 3.36 0.5 0.25 3.61
    4B - 2H 8 3.37 0.5 0.25 3.62



    Total penalties 2.3 Score 21.59
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    Fourth, back to the G19 with KKM barrel/comp but very warmed up by now and NOT concealed.


    Concealment
    G19 KKM Comp Time Penalty .25 deduction Score
    Bill Drill 1 2.46 0.25 0 2.71
    Bill Drill 2 2.21 0.5 0 2.71
    F2S 3 2.06 0.25 0 2.31
    F2S 4 2.13 0 0 2.13
    D2 to H 5 1.93 0 0 1.93
    D2 to H 6 2 0 0 2
    4B - 2H 7 3.01 0.25 0 3.26
    4B - 2H 8 2.96 0.75 0 3.71


    Total penatlties 2.0 Score 20.76
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