New Ruger Mark IV autoloader...

[Sal Picante]

For those of us who shoot Bullseye with an accurized Ruger...

Well, there's your problem. Both of them.

[Jeep]

Last weekend I spent shooting Ruger's new Mark IV .22LR pistol.

The loaded chamber indicator is gone, the gripframe is now a single piece machined from a forging instead of being two welded stampings, and (most importantly) takedown is a single button at the rear of the frame that allows the gun to break open like an AR or shotgun.

Very nice. Have you tried the new S&W Victory model? I'm wondering how it compares.

[That Guy]

Thanks, Tamara. Until this morning I was pretty satisfied with the Mk III 22/45 in the safe.

(The disassembly or reassembly, magazine safety, loaded chamber indicator, none of that bothers me much. But an ambidextrous safety? About friggin' time...! 8) )

[guymontag]

Apologize if already mentioned - estimated street price or MSRP?

[GNiner]

Very nice. Have you tried the new S&W Victory model? I'm wondering how it compares.

I sold my 22/45 and replaced it with the S&W 22 Victory. Compared to the Mark III, the ease of takedown and cleaning the Victory is outstanding. I wonder if the Mark IV was developed in response to the S&W Victory. Around here, they can't keep the Victory in stock. The Mark IV looks like it greatly trumps the Victory in ease of takedown.

[Cheap Shot]

Apologize if already mentioned - estimated street price or MSRP?

http://www.ruger.com/products/markIVTarget/models.html

MSRP

$529 & $689 (SS) Target model

$769 Hunter model

Which seems high to me, but I'll still probably buy one. I've been in the market for a .22 pistol for a long time (years) and this might be the one.

[olstyn]

$529 & $689 (SS) Target model

$769 Hunter model

Which seems high to me

Eesh, yeah. I mean, my wife and I would probably both enjoy it, but that's a lot of cash for a .22 pistol.

[Tamara]

Eesh, yeah. I mean, my wife and I would probably both enjoy it, but that's a lot of cash for a .22 pistol.

Nobody sells at MSRP except, like, Bass Pro Shops and Gander Mountain.

Bud's lists the Mark III Hunter at $524 and the stainless Target Mark III at $428. MSRPs are $729 and $629, respectively.

[Sal Picante]

Nobody sells at MSRP except, like, Bass Pro Shops and Gander Mountain.

Bud's lists the Mark III Hunter at $524 and the stainless Target Mark III at $428. MSRPs are $729 and $629, respectively.

[olstyn]

Bud's lists the Mark III Hunter at $524 and the stainless Target Mark III at $428. MSRPs are $729 and $629, respectively.

Call me a cheapskate, I guess, but that still sounds expensive to me. I have a hard time understanding why a Ruger .22 pistol costs double or more what a Ruger .22 rifle does. The rifle indisputably takes more raw materials, and the two objects do essentially the same thing (launch a .22LR projectile, hopefully with reasonably good accuracy and reliability), but the rifle's MSRP is $300-350, and the pistol's ranges from just over $500 to just under $800. Does the pistol require much higher levels of machine or assembly time for some reason? Is the profit margin on the pistols just way higher? I suppose in the end, it's whatever they think the market will bear, but it's difficult for poor old me to understand.