Week 7: 3x5 Speed Push

[jthhapkido]

Made it to the range today.

7 yards
Gen 4 Glock 17 from Archangel AIWB, closed coat

String 1:
2.67, 2.50, 2.23, 2.51, 2.27, 2.43, 2.46, 2.31 (-1), 2.33, 2.38
Best Time: 2.23

String 2, PAR Time of 2.23:
2.06 -2!, 2.13, 1.94 -1, 2.07 -1, 1.88, 2.01, 2.52 (-1!), 2.19, 2.20, 2.14 (-1)

(Got a bad grip on the 2.52, took me almost the entire par time just to get one shot off)
Hits in Par time for String 2: 14
Best Clean Time for String 2: 1.88 ---but that was pure luck
Best Clean Time when I saw my sights: 2.01

...going to run this drill more, if I can. Good drill!

[Stuffbreaker]

Distance: 7 Yards
Start position : Concealed from under untucked T shirt - CB Supertuck IWB - P30ls V3 Cond. 1
Best time for string 1: 2.27 (2.72 clean was slowest)
10 Hits in String 1
Best clean time for string 2: 2.06
14 Hits in Par in String 2


I did the drill cold, then followed up with a couple clean FAST in the 5.38 - 5.90 range. I had more confidence starting my FAST, but mag changes were slower than usual at 2.5+. Not a record day for me.

[HK_Feeder]

Wowww. I have to admit, I was a cynic. I wasn't expecting a whole lot out of this drill. I should've taken a picture of me on the range with my foot in my mouth. It's unbelievable how much faster the second 20 rounds were when racing the PAR time, while still getting good hits! On top of that, I shot my fastest F.A.S.T. drill in 6 months at 5.39 immediately following this drill. Consider me a believer. I'll definitely be doing a lot more of the '3x5 Speed Push.'

Weapon: .40 caliber HK P30S (V3), hammer back w/ safety engaged
Holster: Comp-tac Spartan IWB at '3:30' concealed under t-shirt
Distance: 7 yards
Drill was done with hands relaxed at sides, pistol holstered under concealment, F.A.S.T. style
String one best time clean: 2.5
String two best time clean: 2.25
String two clean hits within PAR time: 15

String One:
3.35 (-1), 2.84, 3.24, 2.81, 2.68 (-1), 2.50, 2.72 (-1), 2.57, 2.81 (-1), 2.80

String Two:
2.25, 2.43, 2.37, 0 hits, 1 hit, 2.48, 2.39, 2.51, 2.53, 2.35

The tree-huggers are gonna be after me with the amount of paper I'm going to burn through doing this drill in the near future!

Shoot angry,
Steve

[DocGKR]

M&P45 w/RMR carried AIWB under jacket at 7 yds

String 1: 2.81, 2.54, 2.57, 2.98 (-1), 2.70, 2.86, 2.64, 2.33, 2.72, 2.32 for best clean time of 2.32 sec.

Set Par Time to 2.30 sec.

String 2: 2.01 (-1), 2.06 (-1), 2.23 (-1), 2.44, 2.31, 2.26, 2.28, 2.24, 2.33, 2.20 for 14 good hits inside time limit with a best clean time of 2.20 sec.


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Also successfully ran a clean 5.73 sec FAST and a 462 on the 500 pt aggregate. I tried last week's Typwriter Drill again; unfortunately I seem unable to get a clean run on that thing, no matter what I do. Also failed a cold run on the Defoor pistol test #1 when I threw one of the 7 yd shots outside the box...

An RDS equipped pistol allows me to achieve good accuracy on shots outside of 15 yds, but I am still sub-par on closer, fast paced shots.

[JConn]

I was not terribly happy with my performance on this drill. I felt the entire time that I could be getting a lot more hits, but just could not make it happen.

Gun: Gen 3 Glock 19
Holster: Raven Concealment Phantom IWB
Distance: 7 yards
Start position: Concealed under T-Shirt strong side at 3:30
Best time for string 1: 2.65
# of hits within the time limit for string 2: 13 (this is what really ticked me off, It should of been much better even when pushing myself)
Best clean time for string 2: 2.36

[ToddG]

Some general thoughts:

This isn't necessarily only a 3x5 drill. I picked "Speed Push" at random as a name just so we could call it something. The general concept is pretty straightforward: take something you can do correctly 100% of the time at a comfortable speed and then force yourself to go faster. You'll no longer do it 100% correctly but you'll see a very real, sudden change in your speed. Now you can back off just a hair and still get your hits on demand... just faster than before.

Don't be too upset at your accuracy on the "fast" part of the drill. I do this often with 1-shot draws and when my PAR is down below 1.0 seconds from concealment, trust me, I'm lucky to make half my hits on an 8" circle at 7yd. But I'm working on responding to the beep faster, getting to the gun faster, and getting the gun presented faster than I'm comfortable... and then my controlled, guaranteed-hit draw gets faster.

Obviously, you could take this too far and give yourself permission to miss half your shots all the time and that would be stupid. This is a specific tool with a specific purpose. It's an actual performance building drill as opposed to a test, but it cannot exist in a vacuum. I'd strongly recommend following any of these "speed push" drills with some slowfire accuracy work. Pushing your speed is good, but pushing your accuracy is critically important, too.

[peterb]

Cool. I'm finding that the same principles apply to learning to play music. Turning up the metronome faster than you can play the piece cleanly can help bump up your finger speed, but you have to balance that with slower work on being accurate. With time and practice the pieces start to come together......

[ToddG]

You know, I never made the connection before but that is exactly how you learn to play drums faster. I used to have a mean paradiddle.

[Mr_White]

The required data:

Distance: 7 yards
Start position: Concealed, closed-front shirt, Gen3 G34 holstered AIWB, hands hanging naturally.
Best clean time for string 1: 1.60
Number of hits within the time limit for string 2: 14*
Best clean time for string 2: 1.42

Additional data:

Raw data from string 1: 1.64 clean, 1.60 clean, 1.63 clean, 1.62 clean, 1.69 –1 a little low, 1.70 –1 a little low, 1.73 clean, 1.60 clean, 1.67 clean, 1.80 clean

PAR set at 1.60 seconds

Raw data from string 2: 1.54 clean, 1.65 –1* a little low, 1.66 clean, 1.42 clean, 1.74 clean, 1.47 clean, 1.56 clean, 1.45 clean, 1.59 clean, 1.66 –1* a little high

*I did not perceive whether it was the first or second shots I missed with in string 2, so the number of hits within the time limit was 14, 15, or 16, depending on which shots missed.

Comments:

Happy to get 90% hits across the board, irrespective of the PAR time.

Should have gotten 100% hits on the first string.

Could have pushed myself more on the second string.

I was in a hurry when I shot this yesterday, and would like to devote more time to this drill later in the week. If I get the chance to redo it, I will redouble my efforts to shoot the first string 100% and push harder on string 2. Though for me personally, the way I did shoot it was probably very productive because I didn’t make the accuracy wheels come off as per my usual pattern. Given the structure of the drill, I was a little surprised there wasn’t a greater gap between the two strings for both accuracy and time. But that is probably because I was mentally focusing on seeing the sights aligned enough to hit and pressing the trigger, rather than mentally focusing on pace.

[Kevin B.]

OrigamiAK-Nice shooting! Two hits on a 3x5 card from concealment in 1.42 is impressive.