Support Hand Grip: How Much Pressure, Ben Stoeger vs Albert League?

[Gio]

That's not wrong, but that idea falls apart when trying to shoot accurately at speed. Then gripping hard enough becomes really important.

This.

Extreme grip pressure may not be ideal for slow fire bullseye type shooting because you will get more sight wobble, but extreme grip pressure will help you control recoil and mask a lot of imperfections in trigger press mechanics which even the top shooters have when shooting accurately at speed.

I haven't read League's book, but I'll go out on a limb and guess that he's not talking about ripping off sub 2 second 7 yd bill drills with a 3-4" shot spread or sub 4 second bill drills at 25 yards with all A/-0 hits.

[JohnO]

If you're going to put two hands on the gun then you might as well use them in the most effective manner possible.

[spinmove_]

This.

Extreme grip pressure may not be ideal for slow fire bullseye type shooting because you will get more sight wobble, but extreme grip pressure will help you control recoil and mask a lot of imperfections in trigger press mechanics which even the top shooters have when shooting accurately at speed.

I haven't read League's book, but I'll go out on a limb and guess that he's not talking about ripping off sub 2 second 7 yd bill drills with a 3-4" shot spread or sub 4 second bill drills at 25 yards with all A/-0 hits.

Yeah. It all depends upon the type of shooting you're doing really. Sure you can crush it all the time, but you don't need to for every shot. Just like there's different ways of using your sights depending upon the shot you have to make. The trick is knowing how to use your grip, trigger press, and sight picture in the most optimal way for the shot you're trying to make.

Up close and fast shots? Grip the crap out of it, press the trigger as best as you can, and use the silhouette of your sights. Further distance shot that you need precision with? Grip it solidly, but not crazy, REALLY focus on making that trigger press SMOOTH, all visual focus needs to be on front sight and take as much time as you NEED.

There are many ways to skin the cat because you're not necessarily skinning the same cat every time.

[Jay Cunningham]

The corollary is that there's a temptation to back off the grip too much for slow, precision shots.

If you back off too much, the gun is more likely to move during the trigger manipulation.

So even for "perfect trigger control" maximum accuracy, no time limit stuff... you should still maintain a good grip. You can think of it as pre-tensioning your hands so they don't move as much during trigger manipulation, if that helps.