Safety equipped pistols will get me kilt in the streetz?

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So normally when I see Reid's videos it seems like the info is decently squared away. And then I see this video. And then I think to others who are legit on here and other people like Steve Fisher who don't seem to have a problem with carrying a pistol that has a safety. Then I think of the vast majority of rifles that are out there and how they have safeties. Now, I get it, comparing a rifle to a pistol is kinda apples to oranges, but the disengagement of the safety in order to fire isn't THAT different, is it?

What are your thoughts? I've never carried a safety equipped pistol so I'm purely here to learn.

[Tamara]

It has been my observation that there is a wide spectrum of safety fumbling potential between, say, the end user who only draws their safety-on 92F on the clock for semiannual qualifications and someone who gets in good dry-fire reps with a 1911 ever other day.

[Hambo]

Why am I supposed to care what this dude has to say?

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Why am I supposed to care what this dude has to say?

I suppose you don't have to care what THIS particular dude has to say on the subject, but I can pretty much guarantee that he's not the only one who thinks this way. I'm just looking for counterpoints to his perspective. I don't have a dog in this fight, but his stance on the issue just seems "off". Being that I'm inexperienced in this particular realm, I choose to seek knowledge and understanding rather than to simply take his advice at face value.

[RJ]

Early in 2013, with zip for experience in shooting a firearm, I rented several different types of semi-auto pistols at the range.

I distinctly recall more than once raising the gun ready to press the trigger, only to have a troubling delay as nothing happened. After a head smack, I disengaged the safety and squeezed off the round.

I figured that "for me", a simpler approach would work better under stress. So I've ended up with three pistols, all striker fired, no safety.

[Tamara]

How far do I have to skip in to get to his opinion? I don't need to have single action explained to me.

(This is, incidentally, why I hate the fact that the Lazyweb has replaced written dumb shit with video dumb shit. I can read or skim at my own pace, but I've got to sit and listen to nattering to get to the meat of the topic.)

[LittleLebowski]

How far do I have to skip in to get to his opinion? I don't need to have single action explained to me.

Oh, you clicked I just assumed you are like me and have no patience for videos

[Tamara]

Oh, you clicked I just assumed you are like me and have no patience for videos

I went back and clicked after posting.

[RJ]

How far do I have to skip in to get to his opinion? I don't need to have single action explained to me.

(This is, incidentally, why I hate the fact that the Lazyweb has replaced written dumb shit with video dumb shit. I can read or skim at my own pace, but I've got to sit and listen to nattering to get to the meat of the topic.)

Cliffs: "Yer booger hook is yer safety; my experience with my issued M9 proves that. Oh, and Seals are getting Glocks. So there."

[LSP552]

It can get you killed, just like any other pistol you are not proficient with. I have a former coworker who was carrying a Browning HP as an LSP Detective. At one point, the agency had a very liberal policy for plainclothes personnel and off duty. Said coworker failed to make his pistol go off after being shot at from the doorway of a house that he was knocking on the door of.

I was down the street, and was the first backup on the scene. We were part of a pretty large group of folks serving a number of search and arrest warrants that evening. R and his partner were not even looking for the guy who tried to kill him, just looking for a relative. I dodged a couple of bullets during the process also.

So, failing to work the safety of a single action can kill you if you don't know how to work you stuff.

For several years, I carried a lightly custom Colt Combat Commander while working Narcotics and the Criminal Intelligence Unit. During this period, I carried nothing but a 1911. IMO, carrying a gun with a safety means that everything you carry should work the same way. Carrying and training mostly with a point and shoot pistol like a Glock, and occasionally carrying and not training with a pistol with a safety if setting yourself up for failure.

Having said that, if you train enough, it's likely no big deal. Over the years, I have put enough rounds down range and training to the point that I can pick up a SIG or a Glock and run either, without any issues related to decocking. Same principle as using a gun with a safety, the issue is training and learning how to work your gun at the subconscious level, so you can use your brain for fighting.