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Thread: Week 177: If You Aren't Fast Enough, It Doesn't Matter How Accurate You Are

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    USPSA Metric, Gen 3 G19 w/RMR, Fricke holster AIWB, t-shirt concealment.
    String 1; .6 hit, .5 hit, .47 hit
    String 2; 1.23 hit, 1.22 hit, 1.28 hit
    Fail.
    Things noticed. Took too much time looking for a sight picture on string 1.
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  2. #12
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    IDPA circle, Glock 26 Gen 4, JM Custom IWB3, T-Shirt Concealed

    String One: 0.28
    String Two: 1.10
    Pass
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    HK P2000 v2
    Trijicon 3 dot
    JRC AIWB CDA II
    under a t-shirt
    SB9B 124gr
    Observations: accept a less refined sight picture

    Depressed muzzle: .42
    Concealed: 1.12
    Pass
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    IS WHAT PLANTS CRAVE BehindBlueI's's Avatar
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    p226 .40 SCT

    Bladetech IWB under button up shirt

    I only did one run, used a target that had already been used for head shot practice.

    .38 from low ready. 1.70 from concealment.

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    Gear: CZ 75 SP-01 in CCC Gestalt and polo shirt.

    Part 1: Shot this from a ready position simulating the portion of the draw where hands join.
    Results: 0.63H, 0.78H, 0.62H, 0.55H, 0.52H, 0.58H, 0.65H, and 0.53H
    Observations: Think this is beneficial to getting my hands to move faster, visually seeing enough, and learning when I can start getting on the trigger.

    Part 2: Shot from AIWB concealment.
    Results: 1.12M ,1.18H, 1.09M, 1.06H, 1.01M, 1.06H, 0.98H, 1.00M, 0.99H

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    Observations:
    1. I tried not to cheat on the grip, so that maybe slowed me down a bit. Ultimately I still move too slow though.

    2. My misses tend to be high, which suggests my muzzle is slightly elevated, and I think I shoot when I see the FS on the target sometimes without it being fully in the rear notch.

    3. So close to getting to 0.50 sec on the first part, and would like to keep improving the draw and consistently get under 1.0 sec, so will keep doing this next range trip. Easy enough to invest 20-30 rounds and see really good improvement on this drill.
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    Shot this a bunch of times with a G19. USPSA A zone

    Checked difference between a hard trigger finger index vs inside the trigger guard.

    Ready position extended
    Hard index on slide or front of trigger guard: .40-.45 hits
    Inside trigger guard .27 hits

    Draw
    OWB not concealed .98 hits

    I didn't expect the hard index to cost .2

    No sights. Just index point shooting at 3 yards.
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    As a man sows, so shall he reap.
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    Ran five reps of the drills this morning.

    Target, gun, holster, concealment: USPSA target, HK P30 LEM 4.1, concealed AIWB

    Time and hit on String 1:
    1. 0.79 (F)
    2. 0.57 (F)
    3. 0.48 (P)
    4. 0.50 (P)
    5. 0.49 (P)

    Time and hit on String 2
    1. 1.33 (P)
    2. 1.28 (P)
    3. 1.24 (P)
    4. 1.22 (P)
    5. 1.39 (P)

    Observations: I started way too slow on the first shots for String 1, then sped up on the third through fifth rep. Getting high .40-ish from the ready with my trigger finger on the slide was about as fast as I could move. I was pretty happy with the consistency from the concealed draw times and hits on String 2.

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    I am not fast enough...

    IPSC, G17K G4, Ready Tactical OWB, no concealment.

    Time and hit on String 1:
    0.72, 0.56, 0.8, 0.66. 0.63
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    Hits are good, time is not. Fail.
    I alternated between a low ready and compressed ready, the slower times were from compressed (I think)

    Time and hit on String 2:
    1.57, 1.62, 1.52, 1.61, 1.46
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    Last shot was the bugger that went into the C zone. Fail. These are tho, the best times I've shot from the holster.

    I shot each string 5 times in a row, not sure if I should have shot the two strings together, tho I don't think it would have made a lot of difference.

    Second run:
    String 1
    0.58, 0.59, 0.74, 0.78, 0.52
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    Failed again.

    String 2
    1.55, 1.62, 1.60, 1.58, 1.65
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    Fail

    More dry fire, more range time...
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    Target, gun, holster, concealment (if used): USPSA Metric, Glock 17 Gen 3, CompTac OWB, vest for concealed draws.

    I did five from low ready and with concealment then 5 from compressed ready with no concealment.

    Time and hit on String 1(Low Ready): .49; .45; .40; .41; .56 All were in the A zone
    Time and hit on String 2 (From concealment): 1.38; 1.40; 1.39; 1.36; 1.41 Missed left
    Pass or Fail: Pass; Pass; Pass; Pass; Fail overtime and a miss

    Time and hit on String 1 (Compressed Ready): .54 Miss high; .59 Miss right; .54; .54; .58
    Time and hit on String 2 (From open carry): 1.26; 1.23; 1.29 Miss low; 1.39; 1.41
    Pass or Fail: Fail x5

    Observations, anything you noticed: I hesitate to admit it but for the first four runs that were all passes I did not see the front sight, just raised the pistol and as soon as it was at full extension pressed the trigger. On the fifth run the trigger felt a little funky on the press and I slowed up a little too much yielding a .56. The following from the holster I intentionally got on the front sight but felt rushed and slapped the trigger hard sending the shot left.

    The last five runs from compressed ready and open carry were just not good. I concentrated on getting on the front sight each time but just could not get my trigger press smoothed out except for the high miss. Saw my front sight was high just as completed the press on that one, hit was centered but high out of the A. I think subconsciously I thought I had to speed up the press because I was taking more time to find the front sight resulting in more of a jab at the trigger instead of a controlled press. Support hand got a little sloppy too

    Guess my take away from this is it doesn’t matter how good your sight alignment is if you have crappy trigger control especially at close ranges. Think I’ve heard that somewhere before. Also at three yards I may not need to get a sight picture but it is not a habit I want to foster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Range1 View Post
    Target, gun, holster, concealment (if used): USPSA Metric, Glock 17 Gen 3, CompTac OWB, vest for concealed draws.

    I did five from low ready and with concealment then 5 from compressed ready with no concealment.

    Time and hit on String 1(Low Ready): .49; .45; .40; .41; .56 All were in the A zone
    Time and hit on String 2 (From concealment): 1.38; 1.40; 1.39; 1.36; 1.41 Missed left
    Pass or Fail: Pass; Pass; Pass; Pass; Fail overtime and a miss

    Time and hit on String 1 (Compressed Ready): .54 Miss high; .59 Miss right; .54; .54; .58
    Time and hit on String 2 (From open carry): 1.26; 1.23; 1.29 Miss low; 1.39; 1.41
    Pass or Fail: Fail x5

    Observations, anything you noticed: I hesitate to admit it but for the first four runs that were all passes I did not see the front sight, just raised the pistol and as soon as it was at full extension pressed the trigger.

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    Good! I understand the advice "see what you need to see" to be that. It's 3 yards away. Shooting index works up there as you showed!
    As a man sows, so shall he reap.
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