WaPo - The Post asked experts to examine 5 viral videos of police shootings.

[rojocorsa]

FWIW, two months ago when I made the decision to look into the profession in earnest, one of the first things I did was read up on the Met and Sir Robert Peel, but that's just me.

[John Hearne]

I'm confused. I don't know whether my opinion is valid or not.

Probably not. You need a beard or some obvious tattoos on which to anchor your credibility.


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[Erik]

Probably not. You need a beard or some obvious tattoos on which to anchor your credibility.

I have both, but no real skill or experience. Maybe we can work something out.

[jlw]

Probably not. You need a beard or some obvious tattoos on which to anchor your credibility.


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In order for me to have a beard, it would have to be a tattoo of a beard.

[Sammy1]

I watched a news clip where he was interviewed about this. My take was he is an ex-officer with a private business in UOF expert testimony using the the media coverage in a controversial case to get free advertising for himself. With all that is going on lately it felt like he was kicking us while we are down. As far as tactics go I brought the low ready vs SUL as an example how tactics and training differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and he shouldn't have used it to support his conclusion on the Officer's UOF. I believe as LEO or in his case former LEO we shouldn't have anything to say publicly unless it's supportive.

[Mr_White]

In order for me to have a beard, it would have to be a tattoo of a beard.

That could be a really fun tattoo!

[GRV]

That could be a really fun tattoo!

You joke about the whole hipster thing, but with that line, you just sealed the deal.

[Dagga Boy]

I watched a news clip where he was interviewed about this. My take was he is an ex-officer with a private business in UOF expert testimony using the the media coverage in a controversial case to get free advertising for himself. With all that is going on lately it felt like he was kicking us while we are down. As far as tactics go I brought the low ready vs SUL as an example how tactics and training differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and he shouldn't have used it to support his conclusion on the Officer's UOF. I believe as LEO or in his case former LEO we shouldn't have anything to say publicly unless it's supportive.

So wait, you guys are using SUL as a ready or a means to mange suspects? Yea, that is regional. I am beginning to like the idea of not knowing wtf I am talking about.

[Mr_White]

You joke about the whole hipster thing, but with that line, you just sealed the deal.

Look I didn't say who a beard tattoo would be fun for. Might not be the person wearing it. I felt comfortable joking with jlw because he is about as far from an idiot as you can get, so I wasn't worried he'd actually get the tattoo lol.

This whole conversation makes me wish tattoo artists would still put ink on drunk/passed out people. Then, we could 1 - get hipster w/beard real drunk, 2 - shave real beard, 3 - go to tattoo shop and get tattoo beard installed before hipster can object.

So wait, you guys are using SUL as a ready or a means to mange suspects? Yea, that is regional. I am beginning to like the idea of not knowing wtf I am talking about.

Darryl, I think low and contact/threat ready are excellent and have a whole lot of utility. As with some cases of butthurt, they have not faded with time. You are not alone!

[Paul Sharp]

I watched a news clip where he was interviewed about this. My take was he is an ex-officer with a private business in UOF expert testimony using the the media coverage in a controversial case to get free advertising for himself. With all that is going on lately it felt like he was kicking us while we are down. As far as tactics go I brought the low ready vs SUL as an example how tactics and training differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and he shouldn't have used it to support his conclusion on the Officer's UOF. I believe as LEO or in his case former LEO we shouldn't have anything to say publicly unless it's supportive.

Are you referring to Ron McCarthy? Dude, not trying to be an ass but seriously, do some research into our history as police officers. Bob Gallegos Sr is a friend, and has influenced a lot of how I think and what I do. Those guys came before us, and were/are willing to hand down a lot of hard earned knowledge. I have 18 years on, and I'm almost done but for guys with less than 5 years those old school dudes have a lot of knowledge that is going to be lost soon.

re; low ready. This is a slight derailment but we found low ready to be faster and more consistent than SUL when dealing with holding someone at gunpoint. SUL is great for moving around others, as is high ready/ready gun, but for holding someone at gunpoint in a decision making scenario, low ready kicked ass. That was using data gathered from a sample of slightly less than 300 shooters, but I thought it was enough data to revisit something I had walked away from. As with anything, put it on a timer, in various scenarios, and see what yields the best performance. At the end of the day, only performance counts.