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Look! Just because we're bereaved, that doesn't make us saps!
Similar tale here, except I just dragged my Springfield Loaded out from the back of the safe. Odds are as soon as I can get it out for a real range session, I'll be reminded why I put it back there in the first place... Or maybe I'll be inspired to send it in for some upgrades instead.
Either way, it's about to have another couple cases of ammunition inbound as a result of this thread.
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Was once told "your goals should always just exceed your grasp."
Which hits different when the goal is to get back up to "mediocre"...
This is also an itch I would very much like to scratch. I want to feel one though, and find out exactly how much better the grip is front to back.
Well the FLGR has been replaced with the original GI length system. Sleep better!FLGR! Heretic! JMB! Iwo Jima!
"When the phone rang, Parker was in the garage, killing a man."
Please let me know if this is not the correct thread for my specific 1911 query:
So I've had this old USGI 1911 style mix-master parts gun. Everything but the frame is surplus gov't parts. Gun runs fine. The only thing I had done to it up until this point was to ditch this POS MIM extractor that lost all tension and replaced it with an Ed Brown part. Obviously, the slide being a USGI A1, the sights were lacking...
...I had the chance to buy a brand new complete top-end off a Springfield Armory Loaded (guy who sold it to me bought it solely for the frame(in CA you cant buy a stripped Caspian frame or whatever)).
So I add this "modern" top end to my USGI style frame. The only other thing I've done is to add Pachmayr Signature grips on it. It seems to be shooting a tad high and I am trying to figure out why.
Could it be shooting high due to the combination of the old arched MSH with the "modern" taller sights that come standard on a Springfield Loaded? This is my only guess. The gun shoots on with its original configuration.
It's possible your front sight is a tad short
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I wonder if it is because Springfield uses a taller rear sight from the factory, and states in their manual that their pistols are set up for 6 o'clock hold. I have a Range Officer Operator in 9mm that is doing this as well. I'm debating adding a shorter rear sight (.325) compared to the .375 that Springfield uses, which is what looks to be on your Loaded slide, to see if that solves the problem.
So should this Springfield 6 oclock hold apply at all the distances from 3 to 25 yds? Or at what distance does it coincide with being dead on?
I've been shooting 8-inch plates from 15-25 yards. Based on that, I'd say the 6 o'clock hold for my pistol is set up for roughly 25 yards (holding fairly low on the plate at that distance to have a dead center hit; don't have to hold as low at 15, but it still hits above the front sight).
I don't think Springfield sights in the production line guns, though I don't know that for sure. Haven't done any work in-close with this pistol yet, but I'd guess it would be closer to POA-POI at 10 yards and in. I'm hoping to switch out that rear sight early this week, and run it some over the holiday break. Planning to use a .325 height 10-8 rear with the factory fiber optic front. I'll take some paper and shoot in close to see what that looks like.
A quick update:
I was able to get a quick session on the 15-yard plate today with the newly installed 10-8 .325 rear on my 9mm Springfield Range Officer Operator. The lower rear sight definitely brought the POI closer to POA at that distance. I hung a plain paper target just to see where it would print and started in close, probably 5 yards, and moved back to about 10. I was basically shooting "drive the dot" at those distances, which was pretty easy with the fiber optic front that comes factory on this pistol.
I primarily bought this 1911 as a range toy and a cheaper way to shoot a 1911 and learn them a little better. I've been running my 124 grain reloads through it almost exclusively, and it has cycled close to 500 rounds with no major trouble so far. It does tend to dribble out the last round, but hasn't failed to lock back with the two factory 9-rnd mags or two Wilson ETM 10-rnd mags.
I would love to hear from someone that knows more about Springfield why they are one of the only manufacturers to have a taller rear set up for 6 o'clock hold on pistols that don't necessarily seem to be strictly target pistols (Loaded, MC, non-railed TRPs). Anyway, a shorter rear sight seems to have solved the rounds impacting high, but I definitely need more time, more rounds, and more distances to test it. Hope that helps.
Edited to add: Getting the factory rear out took some serious effort. I'm talking a torch to heat and the biggest steel punch I had with multiple hard hits to drift it out. There was definitely some sort of loctite or something in the dovetail. Be prepared...
Last edited by BeeboNC; 11-23-2016 at 05:54 PM.
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