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Thread: I can (and did) pull trigger while gun is in Safariland ALS...WTF

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    I can (and did) pull trigger while gun is in Safariland ALS...WTF

    So I just received a "Safariland Glock 19, 23 with ITI M3, TLR-1, Insight XTI Procyon 6378 ALS Concealment Paddle Holster (STX Black Finish)"

    This one:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


    And I noticed massive gaps in the holster at the back of the trigger guard. After double checking empty gun I holstered it securely, stuck my index finger in there, and CLICK, dry fired. It seems unlikely to happen, but I'm sure it certainly could because of Mr Murphy and his law.

    Has anybody else noticed this or has there ever been a real world issue?

    I have, and have had, a LOT of holsters, and I have not been able to do this with any of the others.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64LWlXWcqPQ

    Last edited by Steaz; 07-10-2016 at 05:52 PM.

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    This happens with certain holsters sometimes due to pieces of clothing getting in there.

    We had a guy discharge his holstered pistol when he put on his jacket and the buckle strap worked its way in...
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    Safariland holsters with provisions for WMLs have been known to have this gap for some models. Happened here: http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/...reading-event/
    Last edited by Default.mp3; 07-10-2016 at 05:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Default.mp3 View Post
    Safariland holsters with provisions for WMLs have been known to have this gap for some models. Happened here: http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/...reading-event/
    Well shit, I remember reading about that at the time.

    Back to Amazon it goes. Geez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steaz View Post
    So I just received a "Safariland Glock 19, 23 with ITI M3, TLR-1, Insight XTI Procyon 6378 ALS Concealment Paddle Holster (STX Black Finish)"

    This one:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


    And I noticed massive gaps in the holster at the back of the trigger guard. After double checking empty gun I holstered it securely, stuck my index finger in there, and CLICK, dry fired. It seems unlikely to happen, but I'm sure it certainly could because of Mr Murphy and his law.

    Has anybody else noticed this or has there ever been a real world issue?

    I have, and have had, a LOT of holsters, and I have not been able to do this with any of the others.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64LWlXWcqPQ

    With my duty holster (safariland ALS)for a glock 22 with a tlr-1hl, I can easily pull the trigger in the same manner you did in your video. The gap where the trigger guard sits is very wide on the holster.

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    is this a WML variant only issue? I'm trying to remember but I don't think my ALS's for my P30's (I have both left and right handed holsters) have that kind of gap or that kind of exposure of the trigger guard. I'll check tomorrow sometime though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hufnagel View Post
    is this a WML variant only issue? I'm trying to remember but I don't think my ALS's for my P30's (I have both left and right handed holsters) have that kind of gap or that kind of exposure of the trigger guard. I'll check tomorrow sometime though.



    I have two other ALS holsters and and have owned a third (all different firearm models) as well as an ALS/SLS level 3 duty style, and this is the only one with the problem...it is also the only one designed for a WML
    Last edited by Steaz; 07-10-2016 at 07:57 PM.

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    Other holsters have this problem as well.
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    My 6004 for the P30L with Insight M6X/M3X exhibits this issue, too, both in SA and in DA. Manual safety FTW.
    Last edited by Default.mp3; 07-10-2016 at 09:08 PM.

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