LV - I'll add the following caution - draw and shoot and fast splits are fun drills, but, I don't remember if you're a new shooter, or if this is just a new pistol. If the former, I'd urge you in the strongest possible words to (a) focus on the fundamentals of accuracy and (b) find a competent instructor before you train yourself into any potential bad habits.
If you're an old hand who's solid on fundamentals - get on with your bad self and GET FAST!
I grew up around and been a very casual shooter most of my life, like shoot once a year casual, until the last year that is.Originally Posted by psalms144.1
Training is a must for me I know this. I am looking at getting some in the next month or so.
Thanks again for all of the input!
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Lots of good info here and I know I need to seek out some professional training to get to the proficiency level I would feel comfortable at.
Some of the details I left out.
We were shooting from concealment at the 4pm position, slim fit button up as the cover garment. Shooting at b-16 targets, not sure of the size of the black but would guess 6" and only counting the black as hits from 7 and 10 yards. I was shooting mainly my p30sk but tossed in my VP9 into the mix, holster is a TT Gunleather Mikes Special. He was shooting his m&p 9 from a alien gear I think. The one thing that made me feel a little better was that I am only 6 months into owning a firearm of any kind and he was a marine and has owned a side arm for aleast 8 years
Time for me to work on my draws during my dry fire routine, I'm confident as I become more more comfortable with the draw my times will drop a bit. Still I think the thing that this had made me realize is that I need training.
Thanks again for all of the info!
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I will say, contrary to many folks opinion, just because someone was/is in the military, does not mean they know how to shoot. Unless they are in some very specific jobs, the military doesn't necessarily stress pistol fundamentals. This is in NO way a dig on any of our military heroes. Not at all. Just saying, "my buddy was in the military" doesn't make him a pistolero.
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My friend is a young Marine with Expert badges for pistol and carbine, and a commendation medal related to marksmanship. He said that one could be a 8 year Marine veteran and have shot 0 pistol rounds. But he said typical Marines would shoot 40-200 a year, depending on MOS. He said some guys like ones in the marksmanship unit or special ops shoot thousands. This was over a garbled speakerphone while driving so I could be a little off.
To the OP......
I was looking to shave time off my first shot from concealment and found that watching a video of myself revealed a lot of things that were going wrong with the draw.
I took a buddy shooting a few months back and he had a Go Pro he was playing with. He video taped me running a FAST drill without me knowing and showed it to me. My first shot time was in the 1.7-2.0 range and when I watched myself, I found all sorts of goofy movement I was doing that was slowing me down. Bending at the knees, swaying to my left as I drew.....all sorts of junk that wasn't helping anything at all.
So I worked on it slow and cut all that movement out. My first shot time dropped down to 1.5 ish range just by cutting out all that movement I was doing. That's about as fast as I can get it and I'm pretty happy it cut down that many tenths.
Another big change I made was to not only shoot more but also use my ammunition to work on my weaknesses instead of my strengths. Reloads and splits were good so I knew that the draw stroke was where I needed to work. You can do a lot of practicing on draw stroke in your living room with an unloaded pistol and your usual carry rig. My shot timer app on my phone with a par time at 1.5 and a wall mirror helped tremendously. Cost me nothing to do.
Good luck.
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