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    Quote Originally Posted by FNFAN View Post
    So we say, "We've documented this person is a citizen of your country. Your refusal to accept him back will cause any scheduled foreign aid payments to be set at $0.00 for the next budgetary year. Further incidence of this nature may result in additional sanctions."
    The problem with cutting foreign aid would be the same as with the current provisions for cutting off visas for countries - it must be implemented via the State Department.

    The US has only used the provision cutting off visas once, about 10 years ago with Guyana. They started taking their people back within days. Soon after, we threatened to do the same thing with Jamaica. The threat was enough.

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    Oh I totally agree. You have to want to end illegal immigration and resolve deportation issues. The Libs (votes) don't and neither does the GOP (cheap labor and labor costs offsets) which is why we have this Kabuki Theater that ties folks hands.
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    These people need to move to El Paso. They are not paying attention.
    Try this
    Www.borderlandbeat.com
    Illegals come over and are milking every benefit they can.

    The border is waiting to explode. I just left El Paso, after 10 years. The border is a porous nightmare.
    It is just a matter of time until the wrong jihadi walks across the border and disappears. Dirty bomb or worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post

    Several members have expressed their belief "all illegal aliens are deported by the feds.
    Last edited by Arbninftry; 09-07-2016 at 08:40 PM.

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    Why ask the country to take his sorry ass back. Plant him on the nearest airplane heading out of the country. Who cares if it's to Zaire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TAZ View Post
    Why ask the country to take his sorry ass back. Plant him on the nearest airplane heading out of the country. Who cares if it's to Zaire.
    Doesn't work that way in the real world. Those other countries are sovereign nations and they don't want someone else's problems anymore than we do.

    There is a provision in US Immigration law for deportees to go to third countries but:

    1) The third country would have to agree to accept them, and;
    2) They cannot go to "contiguous countries or adjacent islands" (Canada, Mexico or the Caribbean) as a third country since it is considered to easy to illegally return.

    I've only seen one criminal deportee get accepted by a third country. A Somali Refugee convicted of sexually assaulting a boy on a bus. He had a brother who had gone to France as a refugee and become a French citizen so the French accepted him.

    In most cases, visa and financial sanctions have been effective in getting countries to take back their own citizens, the issue is getting our own state department to apply them.
    Last edited by HCM; 09-08-2016 at 03:45 PM.

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    Speaking of coming back again and again:

    Suspected serial rapist who allegedly tried to burn victims alive was deported 5 times, police say

    AUSTIN, TEXAS - U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said a man accused of serial rape in the Austin area was deported five times before his most recent arrest in August.

    Nicodemo Coria-Gonzales faces six charges including aggravated sexual assault and kidnapping.

    Police said Coria-Gonzalez admitted he had picked up prostitutes and beat them out of anger. He is currently being held without bond on an immigration detainer.
    In August, Coria-Gonzalez was arrested after a woman told police he tried to set her on fire. While investigating, officers realized he had sexually assaulted several women in a secluded area off Ferguson Lane.
    Police believe there may be more victims that are afraid to come forward. They encourage them and anyone with information about these crimes to call the Austin Police Department.

    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/new...-was-deported/

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    Suspect in Texas double homicide had been deported 3 times to Mexico

    A man who allegedly killed two people and kidnapped a third one over the weekend in the Dallas area was living in the United States illegally under a false name and had been deported three times to Mexico in the last two decades, immigration officials said on Wednesday.

    The 40-year-old man is suspected of killing a motorist in Dallas and a man at a gas station in nearby Cedar Hill. He allegedly also kidnapped a landscape worker in Austin.

    Dallas County jail officials discovered the suspect initially identified as Silvestre Franco-Luviano was actually Juan Navarro Rios. However, a sheriff’s spokesperson later said he used at least eight aliases.

    “This is an example of the worst of the worst that we go after on a daily basis,” Hector Gomez, supervisory deputy marshal of the Lone Star Fugitive Task Force, told the Dallas Morning News.

    Police have not released a motive for either slaying, both of which occurred on Sunday night.

    Navarro was arrested Tuesday after a standoff at his relatives' apartment in Georgetown, about 25 miles north of Austin. Police said he was caught after he set fire to part of the building.

    Criminal records had identified Navarro Rios over the years by some variation of Silvestre Franco-Luviano. He was initially deported in June 1996 for a felony conviction, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman Carl Rusnok said Wednesday.
    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/new...mes-to-mexico/

    Not 100% accurate story. Dallas County jail did not ID him - he was already ID'ed by ICE Officers in Austin assigned to the USMS Lone Star Fugitive Task Force who participated in his arrest.

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    US tried to deport refugee shot, killed by California police

    EL CAJON, Calif. – U.S. authorities tried twice to deport the unarmed black man fatally shot by police in a San Diego suburb, but his native Uganda refused to take him, resulting in his release.

    Immigration and Customs Enforcement said Alfred Olango stopped reporting to officers in February 2015. Spokeswoman Virginia Kice did not know if officers tried to find him after that.

    Olango arrived as a refugee in 1991 and was ordered deported in 2002 after being convicted on drug charges. He was released under a U.S. Supreme Court ruling barring detention of foreign nationals after six months if deportation is unlikely.

    Immigration authorities took Olango into custody in 2009 after a firearms conviction in Colorado but were again unable to obtain travel documents.
    Olango, 38, was shot and killed Tuesday by police in El Cajon after pulling out an electronic cigarette, known as a vape pen, from his pocket and pointing it at the police officer who fired, while a second officer stood nearby trying to subdue him with a stun gun, according to police. A family attorney said Olango was having an emotional breakdown over the recent death of his best friend.

    The investigation centers on a video taken by a bystander. Police have produced a single frame from the cellphone video to support their account, saying it shows Olango in a "shooting stance."

    The photo shows Olango's hands clasped together and pointed directly at an officer who had assumed a similar posture with his gun a few feet away.
    Olango arrived in the U.S. years ago as a refugee from Uganda. Since then he ran afoul of the law several times: selling cocaine, driving drunk, and illegally possessing a 9mm semi-automatic handgun when he was arrested in Colorado in 2005 with pot and ecstasy in his car, according to court records. He pleaded guilty in federal court and was sentenced to nearly four years for being a felon in possession of a gun.

    The fatal shooting happened less than two weeks after black men were shot and killed by police in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and Charlotte, North Carolina, where violent protests broke out.

    Protests in El Cajon Wednesday night had heated moments, but remained mostly peaceful
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/29...ia-police.html
    Last edited by HCM; 09-30-2016 at 12:07 AM.

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    Law would cut off aid to countries that refuse to accept illegal immigrant criminals

    A proposed law that would punish countries that refuse to take back their illegal immigrant criminals is two years too late to save Casey Chadwick, but the Texas congressman behind it figures it’s the least Washington can do.

    Chadwick was murdered in 2015 by Jean Jacques, an illegal immigrant from Haiti and one of thousands freed onto U.S. streets each year after they serve prison time because their homelands refuse deportation. But a proposal by Rep. Brian Babin, R-Texas, the Criminal Alien Deportation Enforcement Act, would force such countries to take back their citizens or risk losing foreign aid and travel visa privileges.
    He was not deported after serving time, but it was not for lack of U.S. effort. Jacques was listed as a passenger on three charter flights to Haiti in June, August and October of 2012, but each time the Haitian government refused to repatriate him.


    There are now more than 20 countries that refuse to cooperate with the U.S., and more than 60 that make the process extremely difficult, Vaughan said.

    “It’s not just Cuba and Cambodia anymore; now it’s China, Bangladesh, Nigeria and many others,” she said.

    The State Department has imposed visa sanctions only once, on Gambia, just a few months ago, which worked right away, Vaughan said.

    “All they had to do was stop issuing visas to Gambian government officials, and they suddenly started cooperating, within weeks, which is fast in the diplomatic context,” Vaughan said.

    Under current law, the State Department must impose sanctions upon request of the Department of Homeland Security, but that rarely happens, said Vaughan.

    Claude Arnold, a former U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement special agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations, said in past administrations, DHS would raise this issue to the State Department but nothing would ever happen. He believes under this proposed bill, will be more Congressional oversight.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...criminals.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCM View Post
    Doesn't work that way in the real world. Those other countries are sovereign nations and they don't want someone else's problems anymore than we do.
    That's why we had Australia at some point, before they went all legit. We need a new country that's just a dumping ground for useless people again.
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