So if I'm reading Doc's excellent guide to hard armor, and I'm likely not, non-ceramic hybrid plates would be the suggested solution for CONUS LE at the cruiser assigned patrol level?
Also- is there specific x-ray testing equipment/procedures for ceramic plates, or is it as simple as finding a friend in the medical field?
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Doc,
In the case of steel plates not stopping 193, and poly plates not stopping 855, do you think/know if those rds will then stop in IIIA, if worn in conjunction?
Last edited by SLG; 06-20-2016 at 05:21 PM.
Depending on the yaw angle after defeating the steel, some (but not all) of the M193 has been stopped in the underlying IIIa soft armor; M855 and M855A1 typically go right through both the LIII PE hard armor and underlying IIIa soft armor.
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DpdG--yes, that is a good durable way to go, albeit a bit heavier.
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Slightly off tangent...Any recommendations for 5.56 rated non-ceramic plates that are "good to go" for civilian use?
Following up on the "durable with M193 and M855 capabilities" tangent- I have been looking for specific plates that meet Doc's suggestion of looking for non-ceramic hybrid construction. So far I have found the AMI TAC3S, Protech Impac RT-Plus, and Tancate Cratus 3400SA (sold under a couple house brands).
The Protech seems reasonably priced ($200+/-) although it is a flat (no curve) plate. Also, I have struggled to find any sort of trustworthy third party review.
The AMI and Tancate are hard to find as neither sells retail and most re-sellers re-label them under house brands. Also, seem to be on the expensive side for the desired use of being assigned to a pool car.
Other than those, I'm struggling to find any others that are non-ceramic hybrid. Does anyone have any other specific brand/model suggestions?
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AMI sells direct to officers and vetted citizens, not to any dealers. Also none of their products are distributed under any other labels.
The TAC3S light is 6 lbs. Tencate Cratus 3400SA is similar.
Last edited by DocGKR; 07-12-2016 at 02:46 PM.
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DpdG,
I purchased the TAC3S plates directly from AMI. Ryan, I believe, was who I dealt with. They are, as Doc said, a bit heavier than the other options but they are durable! The 10x12 plates fit the TAG Banshee like it was made for them. They also fit very well in a LPAC armor carrier. They were more costly than other options but, CONUS LE is what I do. They stop the threats that I am likely to face and can be used over soft armor or without. I do not have to cover miles on foot to find work so their weight is not an issue. To me they are worth the extra money.
Jason