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    Quote Originally Posted by Wheeler View Post
    When Erin started this initiative it went out to a select group of folks that are active in the shooting sports and training communities. It grew very, very fast. It's also intended to be an ambassadorship and basic safety/familiarization not higher level training. I'm on the list, I'm already putting together a list of wills and won'ts along with a short list of what the prospective student will need. That will go up on a blog with a link in my contact info on the map. I'll also be including a set of links to local firearms trainers that I personally know and recommend and may expand it to others that they trust and recommend.

    Once I get it done I'll post it here and also send it to Erin for dissemination.
    My biggest issue is I have never found a single person who is a shooter or "gun person" who thinks they are "unsafe". Yet....go to any range, gun shop, gun show, etc, and it is a major issue. I worry that all these folks who are going to be just teaching "some basics and safety" have a VASTLY different idea of what that is than I do. One tragedy, and it will magnify by a million times. We have enough problems with "instructors" doing some seriously stupid and unsafe crap, now having the campaign of all sorts of well meaning folks taking a homosexual shooting has some serious go bad potential.

    As I said before, you get what you pay for with this stuff. If folks think beginning shooters coming from a non gun culture being trained by people with little or no training, no insurance, and probably an over estimate of their abilities because they are from a gun culture has some interesting potential for some unseen ramifications.
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    That kinda rolls into my life observation that "gun people" in general are complete dipshits. Not necessarily because they're gun people specifically but because that's the human condition. I really despise going to a range to practice and finding out there's someone else there, because it's coin flip time whether I'll need to duck from a flagging retard that thinks he's Stoeger.
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    Below is an article that "open carry texas" has offered to provide armed escorts to LBGT events in Texas. So far there has been no response, but it will be interesting if they do. Do they(LGBT) side on their far left leaning agenda or do they come to there senses and realize that we are at way with Islamic terrorism.

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/...to-help-lgbts/

    Once again the narrative of the left falls apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dismas316 View Post
    Below is an article that "open carry texas" has offered to provide armed escorts to LBGT events in Texas. So far there has been no response, but it will be interesting if they do. Do they(LGBT) side on their far left leaning agenda or do they come to there senses and realize that we are at way with Islamic terrorism.

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/...to-help-lgbts/

    Once again the narrative of the left falls apart.
    I'm not from Texas, but, can a group there provide armed security outside of a facility without a security license of some sort? (In Ohio, you cannot)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Runkle View Post
    I'm not from Texas, but, can a group there provide armed security outside of a facility without a security license of some sort? (In Ohio, you cannot)
    No.

    You can't even organize church members to provide church security without taking steps to accommodate laws against providing armed security without being licensed to do so.
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    How hard is it to get a security license to arm/train a couple bouncers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peally View Post
    How hard is it to get a security license to arm/train a couple bouncers?
    In Ohio you need something like five years experience, something like 2,000 documented hours of work experience and then you have to pass a test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peally View Post
    How hard is it to get a security license to arm/train a couple bouncers?
    http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.u...tm/OC.1702.htm
    https://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RSD/PSB/Testingindex.htm

    and FYI re: Church Security...
    https://www.texasfirearmscoalition.c...ty-teams-chl-s
    A problem arises when any of these teams, regardless of their titles, engage in any activities that fall under this very broad definition of “security” as used in Chapter 1702 of the Texas Occupations Code. Anyone performing one or more of these functions must hold the appropriate level security officer’s license. There is an exception for volunteers serving charitable organizations including churches, but there is a catch – they cannot be armed. So CHLs are precluded from serving their churches in many capacities, if they want to be able to protect themselves, their families and their fellow church members.
    Last edited by RoyGBiv; 06-15-2016 at 11:25 AM.
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    What I'm struggling to understand is, if a given group of people declines to protect themselves because bearing arms doesn't fit with their political/ideological beliefs then why should gun owners offer to protect or train them? Again, I don't think sexual orientation is the crucial point -- rather, an individual or group's will or lack of will to protect themselves against violence.

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