What's so hard doing about felony stops?

[Dagga Boy]

That stuff actually pisses me off to no end. The first people getting days off are staff, the on scene supervisor who obviously was not able to and almost everyone there. The job is dangerous enough without total lack of an iota of discipline creating the hazards.

One thing I learned VERY early through the discipline process was if you were not one of the primary cars in a pursuit and close enough to effectively parallel, the best thing you could do was roll center city and make yourself available for hot calls knowing there is a shortage of manpower. It is amazing.....all this modern communications and nobody can form a take down plan.....total amateur hour.

[Lon]

Amateur hour. I'm really surprised nobody smoked him when he got back in and started backing up. Love the huddle.

I agree with nyeti. Total lack of supervision.

[pablo]

all this modern communications and nobody can form a take down plan.....total amateur hour.

I don't chase anymore and not because it's almost impossible to do within policy. Since we've come up with a super restrictive violent felony only chase policy, we have a handful of chases a year, it really is an overwhelming experience for a lot of officers. The guys doing the chasing will get on the radio and by the way they are screaming, we'd think they were being chased by a hungry bear.

I'm not surprised, take away the experience and learning opportunities, provide no training and immerse officers in a high stress situation and get shitty outcome.

The only two cops out that were in control, were the two that ripped the suspect out of the pig pile and tried to stuff him in a car, so that everyone else would try not to get their licks in.

[tanner]

I'm no technical wizard, but start watching this at around the 12:30 mark. These dudes know what they are doing. I showed this one to my guys at roll call as an excellent example.

[Chuck Haggard]

The guys doing the chasing will get on the radio and by the way they are screaming, we'd think they were being chased by a hungry bear.

Our guys quickly learned that I would terminate a chase immediately if the chase officer sounded too spun up. The guys who got on the radio and sounded like an airline pilot making announcements were the guys I let chase.

If you can't control yourself you can't control the situation.


If I was the watch commander for troops in that video I'd give every single one of them days off, and seriously think about busting any supervisors back a rank.

[Lester Polfus]

This thread demonstrates one of the fundamental problems with how we talk about policing in this country: the fact that we talk about "The Cops" like they were one giant, homogeneous entity.

You can show this to cops from one jurisdiction and they wouldn't see the problem. You can show it to some of the folks on this forum, and folks from departments that are at least semi-squared away, and they start talking about giving people days off.

I don't think outsiders looking in realize that.

[Chuck Haggard]

This thread demonstrates one of the fundamental problems with how we talk about policing in this country: the fact that we talk about "The Cops" like they were one giant, homogeneous entity.

You can show this to cops from one jurisdiction and they wouldn't see the problem. You can show it to some of the folks on this forum, and folks from departments that are at least semi-squared away, and they start talking about giving people days off.

I don't think outsiders looking in realize that.

It's almost like Newhall never even happened....................

[FNFAN]

My favorite is when folks start screaming commands out using the radio mic instead of the p.a. Oopsie!

[MD7305]

The two officers that almost got pinched between the suspect's car, the fence and the SUV....holy smokes, that was a close one. I don't mean to Monday Morning QB but that dual-weilding Taser/Pistol guy, yikes! We don't have K-9s but I've never considered K-9s attacking each other, that was incredible. When I watch these videos it amazes me because with every deputy, officer, trooper, game warden, Marshal, agent, desk rider, animal control, etc. available in my county on dayshift wouldn't even touch the resources there!

[Dave Williams]

I don't mmqb but what a bunch of retards!