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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    That's a great deal. Generally I'd prefer to keep my wood furniture, but that's a great deal.
    My favorite 870 at the PD had no finish on the barrel and the very distinct impression of two front teeth in the butt stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malamute View Post
    Are there suggested 20 ga loads?
    I just got a couple of boxes of this #1 Buck load from SG Ammo to try out in my wife's shotgun. Haven't patterned it yet:

    http://sgammo.com/product/20-gauge/2...tan-ammunition

    I think Rio also has a similar loading.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gadfly View Post
    Given a choice (and our agency has that choice) of one long gun per agent (14" 870, 11.5" or 14.5" M4s, very limited number of MP5A3s) I have the M4... Shit gets knocked, bumped, smacked etc, and I trust the M4 safety far more than the shotgun's.
    I really think that the Mossberg 590DA1 never got it's due. I thought that the DA trigger was just the ticket for the above reason, and I had no problem busting clays with it. I'd love to buy the T&E one that I got for the village I was Chief at.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigghoss View Post
    I really like the layout of the Mossbergs. 590 is my first choice for a pump.
    If I were going to acquire a new pump gun, it would be a 590 with Magpul furniture.
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    Late to reply.

    I have never used reduced recoil ammo in the M2, so I can't really comment. As for LOP, as I said, I don't use a long gun for searching, so it is a moot point. Otoh, aside from the Mesa stock that Tom posted, Benelli makes a shorter LOP comfortech stock.

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    http://www.mossberg.com/product/510-...e-field-50358/

    My wife's shotgun is the 510 mini in 20 ga. I don't know about long term durability, but it is super short, light, and handy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLG View Post
    As for LOP, as I said, I don't use a long gun for searching, so it is a moot point.
    I don't know if you're willing to discuss this publicly, but the above comment confused me. Don't your current/former units search with long guns all the time? Or did you mean by yourself in a home defense scenario?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Français View Post
    I don't know if you're willing to discuss this publicly, but the above comment confused me. Don't your current/former units search with long guns all the time? Or did you mean by yourself in a home defense scenario?
    Yes.:-)

    Since i have dependants in my house, I search with a pistol in order to have a free hand. The long gun is more like an AA battery, and only really comes into play if my wife is home, or if someone gets into my bedroom.

    Professionally, I use a carbine whenever possible.

    Personally, even without dependants, I am more likely to search with a pistol, as I will have more things to do on my own, than if I had a team with me.

    Obviously,a correct lop has more benefits than just searching.
    Last edited by SLG; 04-07-2016 at 12:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLG View Post
    Yes.:-)

    Since i have dependants in my house, I search with a pistol in order to have a free hand. The long gun is more like an AA battery, and only really comes into play if my wife is home, or if someone gets into my bedroom.

    Professionally, I use a carbine whenever possible.

    Personally, even without dependants, I am more likely to search with a pistol, as I will have more things to do on my own, than if I had a team with me.

    Obviously,a correct lop has more benefits than just searching.
    That makes sense. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_Jones View Post
    I had no idea that a DA shotgun was a thing. I have an irrational love of DA triggers (and other triggers that people think suck). I am intrigued.
    This was around 2000-2001. I really liked the damn thing. I (the town) purchased the T&E gun, and I had a local place install an XS Big Dot front sight and chop 2" off the synthetic stock. The only thing that would have made it better would have been a 14" tube instead of the 18.5".

    If I run across another one, I will snap it up.
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    Thanks for this, guys. I've been thinking about the home defense long gun again after a home invasion in my ban-state town, and this thread has probably made someone, possibly Hans Vang, a shotgun sale.

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    I would also suggest JD at AI&P Tactical. He builds really nice guns on the 870 and 11-87 platforms. With Flite Control wads, I no longer see the need for the Vang barrel work. The AI&P guns are very solid and much less expensive than a Vang Comp or WC/Scattergun.

    http://www.aiptactical.com/

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