I have a full house WC 870, and have had Vang and others. They are nice, as long as you get what you want and not what they want to sell you. My factory 870's, modestly accessorized to my taste, are every bit as good, so don't feel like you have to get a custom 870. Of all the guns out there, an 870 probably needs the least customization to bring it to its potential.