"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776
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Please dont post such scary pictures. (Giraffe guy)Originally Posted by SecondsCount
“Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.”
― Theodore Roosevelt
Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits - Mark Twain
Tact is the knack of making a point without making an enemy / Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge?
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From a buddy:
Adding nothing to the conversation since 2015....
Three shots, three hits. Well done, sir.From a buddy:
I hate to be that guy - no wait, I enjoy being that guy - anyway ...
Why would a five year old need to understand "No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of Representatives shall have intervened"?
The original 2nd Amendment was ratified as the 27th Amendment in 1992, 203 years after it was first submitted to the states and three years after Levinson's article was published.It is not irrelevant that the Bill of Rights submitted to the states in 1789 included not only what are now the first ten Amendments, but also two others. Indeed, what we call the First Amendment was only the third one of the list submitted to the states. The initial "first amendment" in fact concerned the future size of the House of Representatives, a topic of no small importance to the Anti-Federalists, who were appalled by the smallness of the House seemingly envisioned by the Philadelphia framers. The second prohibited any pay raise voted by members of Congress to themselves from taking effect until an election "shall have intervened." See J. Goebel, 1 The Oliver Wendell Holmes Devise History of the Supreme Court of the United States: Antecedents and Beginnings to 1801, at 442 n.162 (1971). Had all of the initial twelve proposals been ratified, we would, it is possible, have a dramatically different cognitive map of the Bill of Rights. At the very least, one would neither hear defenses of the "preferred" status of freedom of speech framed in terms of the "firstness" of (what we know as) the First Amendment, nor the wholly invalid inference drawn from that "firstness" of some special intention of the Framers to safeguard the particular rights laid out there.
- Sanford Levinson, "The Embarrassing Second Amendment", Yale Law Journal, 1989
In case anyone is curious, the original First Amendment was
The size of the House of Representatives was capped at 435 members in 1929, and the current ratio of Americans to congress-critters is 750,000 to 1; thirteen times more than the original 57,000 to 1 in 1789. It might be worth reviving that one, too. But that's getting way off topic for this forum thread.After the first enumeration required by the first article of the Constitution, there shall be one Representative for every thirty thousand, until the number shall amount to one hundred, after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall be not less than one hundred Representatives, nor less than one Representative for every forty thousand persons, until the number of Representatives shall amount to two hundred; after which the proportion shall be so regulated by Congress, that there shall not be less than two hundred Representatives, nor more than one Representative for every fifty thousand persons.
Anyway, the lesson is : if you're going back in time, tell them to re-write the 4th Amendment, not the 2nd Amendment.
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