Guns and Ammo article on The Roland Special Glock 19

[babypanther]

I want to build this, but in .40.

Failing that, I may build a P320 carry in 40 with the parker mountain machine comp and the full size grip frame.

I’m not sure if you were aware but Pressburg (RS dude) was stating that the Glock 22 with a KKM comp worked really well, IIRC better than 9mm guns.


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[Wake27]

Necro Bump.

Will all the talk by @Duke and other about comps and dots, and my thought about comp’ing a G23 for the woods, I just wanted to see if anyone is still using a Roland-ish pistol and what the thoughts are after a few years.

I’ve been using mine for a few years as everything - CCW, USPSA, 3 Gun, classes, etc. I don’t put nearly as many rounds through my guns as some here, but I absolutely love that gun. And I’ve been on a big logistics consolidation kick lately so it being a Glock just makes it better.

I've recently been revisiting the concept. Back in November I noticed that I was having trouble focusing on the front sight - I just couldn't shoot tight groups the same way anymore. I tried a dot gun and it was like the magic was back. So I decided to commit to MRDS pistols for 2020. I had sold my previous GEN4 G19 ATEi build, so for this iteration I started with a G45 MOS and simply added the KKM barrel and compensator. Since the G45 offers an integrated magwell and front serrations from the factory, I didn't feel the need to go with custom milling. I also prefer the G17 grip length. Right now I'm running an extra RM01 I had lying around; my plan is to replace it with a RM06 and a CHPWS plate. This is an older picture with a DPP.

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I don't see myself going back to irons, so this time around the Roland feels less like an experiment to try and more like a sidearm to master. I'm not yet where I was in terms of speed with irons, but I'm closing the gap quick. I'm still a bit slower to the first shot. My last practice session before the local ranges closed ended with FAST times of 5.30 and 5.37. Recoil control isn't my greatest strength; the compensator complements the MRDS and helps me track the dot. I've been dedicating my dry fire practice to cleaning up my draw and presentation; I'm hopeful that will mitigate the temporary loss in live fire practice.

I'm wondering when we'll see a compensated MOS gun direct from the Glock factory. There's already the S&W PC model, and I suspect a SIG isn't far behind.

Look into the new Forward Controls Design plate. FCD is an awesome company both in CS and what some of their products actually bring to the table and while it’s new, initial reviews seem very favorable.

Hopefully I’m able to slow my AR addiction long enough to turn my 45 into an RS for training and competing so that I can stop putting all of the wear on my carry gun.


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[HCM]

I’m not sure if you were aware but Pressburg (RS dude) was stating that the Glock 22 with a KKM comp worked really well, IIRC better than 9mm guns.


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Yes but you need a 17L holster and the selection of those are pretty limited (says the 17L owner).

[StraitR]

Has anyone put together a Roland from a G43X? Seems like it would benefit from a comp. I still want a single stack Glock with a dot.

[HCM]

Has anyone put together a Roland from a G43X? Seems like it would benefit from a comp. I still want a single stack Glock with a dot.

I’ve seen one built off a 43, so it is certainly feasible. It was christened the “Rolandito” but the 43x is a better base gun for it.

[Caballoflaco]

I want to build this, but in .40.

Failing that, I may build a P320 carry in 40 with the parker mountain machine comp and the full size grip frame.

How well does the large frame glock work for you? A glock-20 with KKM comp and .40 cal bbl might be the bestest glock .40 ever, and should fit in holsters for the glock 40, but we’ll never know unless you step up to the plate and do it. You’re kind of our only hope.

[HCM]

How well does the large frame glock work for you? A glock-20 with KKM comp and .40 cal bbl might be the bestest glock .40 ever, and should fit in holsters for the glock 40, but we’ll never know unless you step up to the plate and do it. You’re kind of our only hope.

Someone else beat you too it - I saw that exact setup for sale a while back on ARFCOM.

The G40 is too long and I want to maintain the same grip as my work G17.

The G45/23 it shall be.

[Mike C]

Has anyone put together a Roland from a G43X? Seems like it would benefit from a comp. I still want a single stack Glock with a dot.

Yes, well sort of. I am not exactly sure of the specs for what one would consider a Roland Special. Here it is in a Tenicore G43X holster.

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I ended up using G43X, 5lbs Wolff striker spring, NP3 factory minus connector, NP3 factory FPBS, SCD, Agency Arms 417C comp, Victory First barrel. Optic is a Shield RMSw, slide work done by Maple Leaf. I'd add that it is a very interesting concept and animal. Only gripe is I would like to have a factory threaded barrel for the gun, maybe single port comp vs two port.

[Caballoflaco]

What I would like to experiment in this area with is a hybrid comped barrel. Imagine a simple extended barrel that has the muzzle crown recessed within the barrel until it’s even with the frame, then add some ports to what’s sticking out in front of the slide.

That should eliminate the tendency for barrels that are drilled into the rifling from throwing pieces of jacket and lead, while sacrificing some of the performance of a threaded-on comp for the simplicity and light weight of a one piece barrel.

[Mike C]

What I would like to experiment in this area with is a hybrid comped barrel. Imagine a simple extended barrel that has the muzzle crown recessed within the barrel until it’s even with the frame, then add some ports to what’s sticking out in front of the slide.

That should eliminate the tendency for barrels that are drilled into the rifling from throwing pieces of jacket and lead, while sacrificing some of the performance of a threaded-on comp for the simplicity and light weight of a one piece barrel.

I think Diamond Back Firearms did something like that with a DB9 IRCC. That would be interesting and if I knew a machinist worth his salt I'd pony up the barrel for a test run. I'm not sure how it would affect rifling and accuracy, any takers?