Glock 30S, Glock 41, Springfield Loaded, all well under $1k. I'd just ask myself what the increased cost of ammo and decreased capacity was gonna get me.
Glock 30S, Glock 41, Springfield Loaded, all well under $1k. I'd just ask myself what the increased cost of ammo and decreased capacity was gonna get me.
I'd say one of the HKs. Opinions will vary on which one, but HK pistols tend to be ultra-reliable tack drivers right out of the box.Originally Posted by markc1963
What are you going to do with it? Any particular reason you've decided on a 45?
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I had less trouble with GL21s, GL30s, HK45, Hk USP 45 than tight 1911s by a huge margin. Production Series 70 Colts with FMJ were mostly reliable.
I want a pistol I can buy 3+ of, and 30 magazines for. It must all work together. BTDT with multiple GL21s, GL30s, HK 45s, HK USP 45s. No issues.
1911s did not give me this experience. This is sad because a 1911 still feels best in my hand. I have not carried a 1911 as a CCW since 1990. Carried Glocks, HKs.
My 1911 experience was mainly Colt Series 70 1973-1990. Also had Springfield armory, Kimbers(never again) Later I got into high line 1911s.
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Yikes.
HK45 Compact is a nice option IMO.
First, welcome to Pistol-Forum!
Two very important questions here. P-F does have an affinity for HK, but an even stronger affinity for the concept of "mission drives gear." An HK USP Elite .45 is a fantastic pistol, until you're trying to pocket carry it with a tucked-in shirt in an NPE. Think of guns like shoes, where some are very good for very specialized purposes, and very bad at others (don't run marathons in swim fins).
Also, unless you have a lot of .45 stocked up or get it free from work like some lucky people do, I'd urge you to at least consider other calibers--I don't know your experience, but I usually tell people with caliber questions to default to the lower recoil, lower cost 9mm unless they have a specific reason to go with something else (like a highway patrol officer that has a high likelihood of having to shoot through glass/car bodies).
As out-of the box .45s go, my first choice would probably be a HK 45c, but that's because I want a concealable weapon with a hammer for appendix reholstering, and it is very similar to the 9mm P2000 I carry. If you give us a little more about what you're looking for, we can give you some suggestions that are more specific to your individual needs.
I like the P220 and carried one as a duty gun many years ago but capacity is limited and it is less durable and reliable than the SIG 226/228/229. The 227 seems to be doing well and increases capacity.
For a non 1911 .45 I would recommend, in order:
HK USP/ HK 45 and variants of these
S$W M&P 45 / M&P 45C
Glock 21 gen 4 / Glock 30S
SIG 227
For a sub 2k 1911:
Dan Wesson. Valor
Springfield TRP
Used Les Baer
Title edited and I'd look at an M&P45. The HK is definitely more reliable, more expensive, and has a worse trigger.
I was wondering when someone was going to chime in suggesting an M&P45. I've never shot an HK45 or USP .45, however given the praise and track record from people here, I'd be highly surprised if it was a bad choice. I have, however, had some trigger time behind an M&P45. As much as I have a love/hate relationship with M&P9s, I have to say that the M&P45 is high on my list of "wants" as far as pistols go.
One of our SMEs; DoGKR, speaks highly of M&P45s.
Personally, I cannot justify the 1/3 cost differential between 9mm and .45ACP but if it were me, I'd be looking hard at the M&P45 and perhaps the new Glock 41, the same pistol one of our SMEs used to win the US Carbine Championship (Heavy Division).
I had a HK USP .45c, it was very accurate but unreliable, I do considerate it an outlier and I have had several HKs since that were faultlessly reliable. The best .45 I've ever had was a STI Ranger II, reliable with every mag I had, smooth in operation and accurate. I sold it when it just became to expensive to shoot a lot of .45 auto.
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