Need a new P2000 holster

[Mickey]

Not yet, but I will take some tomorrow night.

[Mickey]

Here is a few with it on.

[Wendell]

I'd expect more retention from leather, which is why I asked. Here's a video on concealed carry gear from the late Paul Gomez where he'll talk about the retention advantage of leather. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF7VbYh9Qqk

"...For several years, Todd and I had hoped to get a really functional leather AIWB holster. The over-riding reason is that leather is tougher than kydex. Period. I’ve seen just about every brand of kydex holster break at one time or another, in a class, or out for real. Leather is not only tougher, but many of us find that it has a slight edge in weapons retention. Where a kydex holster has the gun either “locked in” or not, a leather holster can add useful drag during the whole draw. That’s especially true if you are in a compromised position, and the gun is slowly being pried out of the holster. That extra drag can help you retain the gun in a fight, where a kydex holster would not. Surprisingly, that extra drag doesn’t slow the draw down at all when you intend to draw it fast. There are faster guys on this board than me, but I can consistently hit a 1.1 second concealed carry draw with this holster (8” circle at 7 yards), and Todd has gotten down to the mid .8‘s. A leather holster is also MUCH harder to break or rip off of your belt..."

[Johnny Walker]

Mickey, how long was the wait once ordered? I would like to get the very same holster for my P2K!

[ffhounddog]

Thanks for the Pics Micky. Thinking of a version 3 maybe. Just I know I would go with .80 I think a good balance between the two. The hybrid looks interesting to me.

[Mickey]

Mickey, how long was the wait once ordered? I would like to get the very same holster for my P2K!

8-9 weeks is what was quoted on the website. Mine was delivered at the 9 week mark.
I had heard that the delivery times on the website were accurate and that was true in my case.

But in all fairness,my initial order was for a P320. I found a good deal on the P2000 and changed my order at the end of January.

[bravo7]

"...For several years, Todd and I had hoped to get a really functional leather AIWB holster. The over-riding reason is that leather is tougher than kydex. Period. I’ve seen just about every brand of kydex holster break at one time or another, in a class, or out for real. Leather is not only tougher, but many of us find that it has a slight edge in weapons retention. Where a kydex holster has the gun either “locked in” or not, a leather holster can add useful drag during the whole draw. That’s especially true if you are in a compromised position, and the gun is slowly being pried out of the holster. That extra drag can help you retain the gun in a fight, where a kydex holster would not. Surprisingly, that extra drag doesn’t slow the draw down at all when you intend to draw it fast. There are faster guys on this board than me, but I can consistently hit a 1.1 second concealed carry draw with this holster (8” circle at 7 yards), and Todd has gotten down to the mid .8‘s. A leather holster is also MUCH harder to break or rip off of your belt..."

I guess it depends on one's environment. I'm outside all day running around in rough terrain and hot weather. Leather absorbs all of my sweat and corrosion on the pistol sets in fairly quickly. So leather will never be option for me.

[JTQ]

I guess it depends on one's environment. I'm outside all day running around in rough terrain and hot weather. Leather absorbs all of my sweat and corrosion on the pistol sets in fairly quickly. So leather will never be option for me.

It's a different argument though than the one being made.

The argument for leather was for retention. If the argument is which is more sweat resistant, kydex is the way to go.

Everybody has to compromise on something. Only you can decide which is more important for your needs.

[bravo7]

It's a different argument though than the one being made.

The argument for leather was for retention. If the argument is which is more sweat resistant, kydex is the way to go.

Everybody has to compromise on something. Only you can decide which is more important for your needs.

Understood.....but I'm not compromising on retention either. Like I said I'm running around and crawling over rough terrain all day utilizing AIWB...... Not a single retention issue ever.

[JTQ]

Understood.....but I'm not compromising on retention either. Like I said I'm running around and crawling over rough terrain all day utilizing AIWB...... Not a single retention issue ever.

From the above quote...

Where a kydex holster has the gun either “locked in” or not, a leather holster can add useful drag during the whole draw.

Kydex provides retention for about 1/8" to 1/4" of movement. Sure you can adjust that initial retention, but once you go past that point a gun practically jumps out of a kydex holster. It's not the same as with a leather holster.