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    Petition: Let federal LEOs keep their weapons upon retirement

    Many state and local law enforcement agencies allow for their officers to receive or purchase their service weapons upon retirement or separation in good standing. However, this is no longer the case for federal law enforcement due to a Clinton era executive order which was later codified CFR Title 41 §101-42.1102-10(5) (c). Unlike the U.S. Military, which can sell civilian legal firearms to the general public by donating them to the CMP, federal law enforcement agencies can only dispose of firearms by destroying them or giving them to another government agency.

    This petition seeks to:

    1) Give federal agents/officers the option to retain or purchase their service weapon upon retirement or under certain other limited circumstances and;

    2) Amend the LEOSA Improvements Act to allow all retired or honorably separated LEOs the ability to carry the higher capacity magazines and other accessories (used while on active status) after they have retired or separated.



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    PETITION TO ALLOW FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENTS/OFFICERS THE OPTION TO RETAIN OR BUY THEIR SERVICE WEAPON UPON RETIREMENT OR SEPARATION

    PURPOSE OF PETITION:

    To change the current law to allow federal law enforcement agents/officers the option to receive or purchase their service weapon upon retirement or separation in good standing after 10 years of service or when that agency switches from one weapon system to another and carry concealed that weapon and all of the accessories. This will allow these professionals to continue to utilize their most familiar tool along with the skills that they have acquired over the length of their career.

    SITUATION:

    When a federal agent/officer retires, the agency retains possession of that law enforcement officer’s (LEO) service weapon. That LEO is given retirement credentials and allowed to retain their badge, but not their pistol. The dangers inherent to police work do not stop when the LEO goes off shift or retires. Retired federal agents/officers are entrusted by Congress through the Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (LEOSA) and LEOSA Improvements Act to carry concealed throughout the US, but are not provided an option to do so. Throughout the duration of their careers, federal agents/officers have received the necessary training and experience to bring most emergent situations to a logical law enforcement resolve. Currently, retired agents/officers have amassed years of applied training and experience, but are stripped of the tools of their trade upon retirement.

    Current Status:

    Many state and local law enforcement agencies allow for their officers/agents to receive or purchase their service weapons upon retirement or separation in good standing. This is not allowed in federal law enforcement due to CFR Title 41 §101-42.1102-10(5) (c). According to this law, federal agencies must destroy those weapons. The same thing happens when a federal law enforcement agency re-evaluates and changes from their current weapons systems to another. These weapons are being destroyed instead of being put in the capable and trained hands of the agents/officers that originally utilized those weapons on duty. All law enforcement agents/officers are targets of criminals and terrorists whether in uniform or not, on duty or off, active or retired. Federal agents who retire are given a badge and credentials to identify who they are, but are left weaponless to defend themselves if confronted.

    BACKGROUND:

    CFR Title 41 §101-42.1102-10(5)(c) states that, “Surplus firearms may be sold only for scrap after total destruction by crushing, cutting, breaking, or deforming to be performed in a manner to ensure that the firearms are rendered completely inoperative and to preclude their being made operative. Such sale shall be conducted under subpart 101-45.3.”

    RECOMMENDATION:

    An ideal solution for this problem would be to change CFR Title 41 §101-42.1102-10(5) (c) and amend it so that federal agents/officers are given the option to retain their service weapon upon retirement or certain other limited circumstances and amend the LEOSA Improvements Act to allow retired or separated agents/officers the ability to carry the higher capacity magazines and other accessories (used while on active status) after they have retired or separated.

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    That sucks. When one of our guys retire the City lets the officer keep their weapon for a dollar ($1.00). They also provide a handgun safe.

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    Petition: Let federal LEOs keep their weapons upon retirement

    Signed.

    Thanks to all LEO's: Federal, State, County, or Municipal. My family and I really appreciate everything you all do, and continue to do despite all the maltreatment from the idiots, politicians, and special victim's class.


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    Last edited by Mike C; 03-13-2016 at 07:29 AM.

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    Signed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeeFus View Post
    They also provide a handgun safe.
    If they're going to provide a safe, why not get it when they're issued a gun, rather than at retirement?

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    Done. Hopefully that will help lead to some positive legislative change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JV_ View Post
    If they're going to provide a safe, why not get it when they're issued a gun, rather than at retirement?
    I know my wife was issued a safe with Her Glock 22.

    I was given a safety brief.

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    I think this is an excellent idea. Let them purchase their duty sidearm(s) for a dollar. Then it is clearly a sale, and makes it more difficult to take the firearms back from the retiree.

    Sadly, all those destroyed CS-1's come to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JV_ View Post
    If they're going to provide a safe, why not get it when they're issued a gun, rather than at retirement?
    If you can figure out PD admins please let me know. Ive been doing this shit for over 20 years and I've yet to do it...im just a road guy that punches tickets all day and answers calls. Thats far removed from admin...

    That said, it all comes down to money...and if they'd ever get the safe back should someone leave before retirement. For example, we are probably getting G-17's this budget year, which means we have to trade our M&Ps. You want to place a wager on how many blue S&W boxes (which were also given to the officers when they were new) we will get back? Better yet, all the back straps? Some officers that have left over the past 5 years haven't returned these items...so Im betting we will be lucky if we get 2/3 of them.
    Last edited by KeeFus; 03-13-2016 at 10:47 AM.

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    Done. Is this posted on other forums?

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