Criminals have the same civil rights as anyone else. The problem is, the BLM movement seems to think those rights include the right not to be busted for doing illegal stuff if your skin is a certain shade.Originally Posted by cclaxton
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I have never dealt with the individual in the video, but I am very familiar with the officer. Even though he has never worked for me personally, I am familiar with him and worked around him in his last unit of assignment. He is extremely[/I] professional at all times. It sickens me to know that this officer and his family now have to endure the additional stress that will come with this video being all over Yahoo News.
I will not comment further on an open forum as there is an active Internal Investigation ongoing.
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Which is asinine. What are they investigating? The officer was the epitome of professionalism as far as what I saw on the video. He used only as much force (not much at that) as was necessary for the resistance the suspect was offering. And there sure isn't any doubt about the reason for the stop, the guy recorded the "Do Not Walk" light himself.
This is rhetorical of course, I know you cannot respond.
As has been said here and elsewhere, I really feel for what cops are having to go through these days. Unfortunately there have definitely been abuses by some, and probably in front of too many blind eyes, but the pendulum has swung so far the other way now that policing appears to be becoming practically impossible to accomplish effectively. I don't have an answer, but common sense needs to prevail soon or we're going to have a real problem when good men and women looking at going into law enforcement run the other direction. And who could blame them? The irony being that those screaming the loudest about imaginary abuses will be among the first to suffer from diminished police effectiveness.
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This type of thing really rubs me the wrong way and it plays out all the time in the public limelight.
Ive had several officers I personally know get put through the ringer for good police work that was turned into some BS by the media and the BLM types.
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That is what I meant...you said it better.
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That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state;
With all the police unions in the country, why don't they have their own video channel and public relations campaign? Seems like it would help bring some balance to the sensationalizing done by the media.
Cody
That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state;
Policeone.com is as big as it will get.
Remember, that would mean all the top brass, of all the PD's would have to sign off on using footage (that lawyers would go crazy over) of people doing stupid things. Sure it would be awesome, but fact remains most (if not all) won't, especially not the larger depts. The top brass are ball-less, they are afraid of losing their jobs or looking horrible, they definitely won't back their people up.
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Perhaps I over simplify things, but for me...
- If you act like a thug you get treated like thug
- If the police tell you to stop - you stop - you don't run
- If the police tell you to stop resisting, you go limp - you betcha, I'm not resisting!
- If the police tell you to raise your hands - you raise your hands, you don't say "why - I didn't do anything"? and point a shiny object in their general direction!
- If you point a shiny object at the police you get shot - even if it was a toy, hopefully killed to remove you from the gene pool, because that was really quite stupid!
Parents need to teach their children NOT to point toy guns or anything else at the police and their children won't get shot.
I know my parents taught me to obey the police - even if I think I'm right. After all, THEY HAVE GUNS AND ARE ALLOWED TO SHOOT! You can always argue/discuss your point after wards or in court.
And as far as BLM- um, All lives matter, don't they or is that just for the AA's (African American's)?
I get a little confused because I thought the term was African American, are we back to Black now? Shouldn't it be AALM?
This is by no means meant to be a racist post, just offering an opinion and getting clarification
A true ass.
People like this should have stayed in the penitentiary where they'd already "spent 13 years".
"Therefore, since the world has still... Much good, but much less good than ill,
And while the sun and moon endure, Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
I'd face it as a wise man would, And train for ill and not for good." -- A.E. Housman
The guy in the video is using a classic technique: He is controlling the narrative. He got his side of the story out first with YouTube, so it looks like the officer is following the guy just waiting for him to do anything as a pretext to harass him. As such, the Cincinnati PD has to respond and is playing defense as what triggered the officer following the guy is not in the video. As such, someone who is not familiar with how LE works sees "harassment" as opposed to "walking the beat". The fact that most people's idea of how LE works comes from "Law and Order" and "CSI" is why people see racism instead of good street police work. The idea of probable cause for a stop when people see Chris Noth just tackling people is not understood by the public.
It would be awesome if the officer had a bodycam with audio recording. That way the narrative would start with something like, "Noticed subject leaving location where drug deals are known to occur. Looking for probable cause for a stop. Probable cause is jaywalking as he just crossed against the light. Approaching subject to determine if he is indeed holding drugs." That frames the whole discussion in a different light as the jaywalking offense is only a means to determine if there are grounds for a felony arrest.
Where I live in Alabama, there has been an incident where a man who was emotionally disturbed was tasered at the hospital and died. Even though the man's mother was one of the people who wanted the police to deal with her son, she later stated that the police did not need to kill her son. Of course, that got people excited. The body cam footage showing the officers' actions has been released to the public, and that footage essentially defused the story. The state is still investigating the incident, but the narrative is entirely different than "police killed my sick son".
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