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    Quote Originally Posted by Talionis View Post
    Lets operate! You deploy your sub2k from the skateboard pack of your choice, I'll deploy the MP5K from a suitcase.
    S...can I shoot my briefcase mp-5k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLG View Post
    my briefcase mp-5k?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLG View Post
    S...can I shoot my briefcase mp-5k?
    Yesssssss
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talionis View Post
    Yesssssss
    Cool. I imagine the RO's would have a conniption though.:-)

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    I've done this in a local match a few times just to get a feel for how much more capable a carbine might be vs a pistol. The answer is "very" if things were anything but 7 and in.


    I could shoot my sub2000 tomorrow, but if this became a thing I'd might even build a 9mm AR for the fun of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLG View Post
    Cool. I imagine the RO's would have a conniption though.:-)
    I would love to see the Load & Make Ready routine for that baby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Haggard View Post
    I've done this in a local match a few times just to get a feel for how much more capable a carbine might be vs a pistol. The answer is "very" if things were anything but 7 and in.


    I could shoot my sub2000 tomorrow, but if this became a thing I'd might even build a 9mm AR for the fun of it.
    9mm AR would be sooooooo much better than Sub2000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talionis View Post
    I'm more interested in PCC than in any other division besides production. I am building a 9mm AR to hold me over until I can start running an MP5. I will use it as a proving ground to test and drive my skill with a carbine, which is an area I have neglected.

    I am really interested to compare my performance with a PCC to my pistol performance. I have started dryfire practice with my old carbine in anticipation. I have been surprised to see that there is virtually no difference in times between pistol and rifle in any of the drills I've set up, including those with tight hallway movement, moving through doors, etc. I think it is fair to say that I am significantly more experienced with a pistol, but that there is a great deal of carryover in things like aggressive movement, driving to the target, vision speed, etc.

    A few things about PCC that make me excited:

    Minor Scoring, so I'll actually have to aim.
    Loading magazines to full capacity.
    The ability to shoot in volume using exactly the same ammo as I load for pistol.
    The chance to run around shooting stuff with a sbr'd and suppressed MP5K and feel like every action movie hero from the 90's.
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    Is that MP5 part of your HK sponsorship gig? If so, I would be willing to shoot a VP9.

    Quote Originally Posted by SLG View Post
    PCC in USPSA. Fashionably late isn't usually measured in decades.

    No one uses a pistol caliber carbine by choice today for anything. Is it an ok sub caliber trainer? Sure, but only for the up close stuff.

    Had they offered this division back when guys actually carried MP-5's and such, I would think it would have been better timing, at least from the P part of USPSA. Maybe not from the availability/AWB standpoint.

    Either way, I think it will be fun to shoot, and I might have an MP-5/10 laying around that I could use:-)

    Looks like minor scoring, so maybe I'll have to pull an MP-5 out instead.

    Anyone know about optics?
    I don't think the pistol caliber carbine is a suggestion that it is a good caliber choice. Rather, the pistol caliber can be shot on pistol stages without tearing up steel.

    I understand the folks at Wilson Combat have something that should be out in the next few weeks, relevant to this.
    Likes pretty much everything in every caliber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_White View Post
    9mm AR would be sooooooo much better than Sub2000.
    Yeah, but my sub has been a shockingly decent gun.

    WAY more reliable than the Colt SMGs my team had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SLG View Post
    I might have an MP-5/10 laying around that I could use:-)
    You may have a real one or a clone? If a real one I'll be insanely jealous!

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