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    Word is the RCMP is buying them in 300 gun lots, because that's as many as the purchasers are allowed to order at a time.

    That's going to be a long, slow process.
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    Just pulled ammo for Monday/Tuesday range qual. We are still giving out one box of practice ammo per gun (50 primary, 50 for backup). I don't think I will use all this ammo. But 80/90% will get shot in training.

    Like MCH, We are much tighter with our ammo since the post Sandy Hook/DHS/Jade Helm/Obama is buying up all the ammo to kill Americans bullshit. (Ted Cruz was part of killing our generous ammo budget...).


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    "...all rounds fired must hit the target."

    Immediate Action Rapid Deployment (IARD) was developed in response to a training gaps regarding how officers respond to high-risk critical threats. Chief Supt. Eric Stubbs said the training consists of an indoor two-day course and a one-day outdoor course that all members have to complete within three years. Stubbs said the carbine course and IARD course are being delivered to all cadets at RCMP Depot immediately after they graduate. "Effective April 1, IARD will be mandatory for all members in the RCMP," said Stubbs. Advanced and dynamic shooting drills have been designed for the carbine and the pistol. All RCMP divisions must ensure that practice sessions with instructors are held each year. RCMP will also supply a free annual allotment of practice ammunition so members can train and remain proficient with their firearms. "The traditional course of fire has been replaced with the round-accountability system, which means all rounds fired must hit the target."
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-br...port-1.3439798
    Last edited by Wendell; 03-21-2016 at 04:49 PM.

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    RCMP pleas on Labour Code charges in Moncton shootings set for May 12

    RCMP pleas on charges they violated the health and safety provisions of the Canada Labour Code in connection with the 2014 Moncton Mountie shootings have been delayed again. The charges, which relate to equipment, training and supervision, were recommended by the Public Prosecution Service of Canada last year after its investigation into the shooting deaths of three officers and the wounding of two others by gunman Justin Bourque. Bourque was armed with a M305 .308 semiautomatic rifle and a Mossberg 500 12-gauge shotgun, while the Mounties had to rely on pistols and shotguns. Issuing carbines to Mounties was a key recommendation of a 2011 inquiry into the deaths of four RCMP officers in Mayerthorpe, Atla, in 2005. The Moncton RCMP detachment did have some carbines at the time of the 2014 shooting, but no members were trained to use them. Employment and Social Development Canada, which is responsible for investigating the death of any federal government employee who dies on the job, laid the charges against the RCMP in May 2015. The national police force was expected to enter pleas and set a trial date in Moncton provincial court on Thursday afternoon, but the case has been adjourned until May 12 at 1:30 p.m.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-br...ings-1.3524866

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    You can find the independent review report at http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/indepen...ng-june-4-2014. The revised annual pistol course of fire rolled out in April, 2016.

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    Years ago, we had open range days once a month where a deputy could come and shoot one hundred rounds on his own time. There were three qualification courses shot twice a year at one hundred ten rounds per session.
    Hardly anyone took advantage of the open range unless ordered to attend for remedial training.
    The Great Recession killed our open range days and reduced our quals to once a year firing two courses for a total of eighty-six rounds. Not sufficient, in my view.

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    RCMP trial on Labour Code charges in Moncton shootings set for April 18

    The four charges stem from the RCMP's response to the shooting spree by Justin Bourque in June 2014. The RCMP previously pleaded not guilty to charges the force violated four health and safety provisions of the Canada Labour Code, and elected to be tried by a provincial court judge. The charges relate to equipment, training and supervision and were recommended by the Public Prosecution Service of Canada after its investigation into the Moncton shootings. Constables Fabrice Gevaudan, 45, Doug Larche, 40, and David Joseph Ross, 32, were shot and killed by Bourque, 24, as he made his way through a Moncton neighbourhood on the evening of June 4, 2014. Constables Darlene Goguen and Eric Dubois were wounded. Bourque was armed with a M305 .308 semiautomatic rifle and a Mossberg 500 12-gauge shotgun. The Mounties had to counter with pistols and shotguns because no members of the Codiac detachment were trained to use a carbine weapon, which is a high-powered, short-barrelled rifle with a longer accurate range than a pistol or shotgun. Bourque is serving five life sentences with no chance of parole for 75 years. Each of the four charges carries a maximum fine of $1 million. The charges include: Failing to provide RCMP members with appropriate use of force equipment and related user training when responding to an active threat or active shooter event; Failing to provide RCMP members with appropriate information, instruction and/or training to ensure their health and safety when responding to an active threat or active shooter event in an open environment; Failing to provide RCMP supervisory personnel with appropriate information, instruction and/or training to ensure the health and safety of RCMP members when responding to an active threat or active shooter event in an open environment; Failing to ensure the health and safety at work of every person employed by it, namely - RCMP members, was protected. No individual RCMP manager or supervisor is named in the charges.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-br...rque-1.3924503

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    Firearms facelift - Training added to RCMP's annual pistol qualification


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