Originally Posted by
nyeti
A couple big issues...
#6....I agree in principle; however, I have had rookies who miss things veteran officers pick up and the last thing you want is an officer fitting a crook, and another officer. Equally, depending on where folks are, time of arrival, and a host of other reasons one officers perceptions can be very different from another. There is a massive difference between a perceived "unnecessary" (perception, and very subjective), excessive (not always clear) and criminal (usual pretty clear cut) uses of force. I am against criminal use of force. I have a major issue with someone thinking something is unnecessary and intervening in an arrest that may be totally out of line. Also....what do we do with the other major issue this will spawn.....not using enough force when necessary? How do we address this....especially when I have seen far more injuries of both criminals and officers from not using enough force when it should have been than too much.
#8 is pretty simple.....any firing on or from a vehicle should be a simple question of justified use of lethal force. This should always consider and weigh the risk to the community when that decision is made. To outright ban the use of lethal force in a vehicle oriented society because either LE or the felon is vehicle bound is insanely stupid and unrealistic. Apparently these executives have not seen what happens when vehicles hit things at high speed. Sometimes....you need to shoot a felon in a vehicle to prevent them from killing or maiming officers or the public. Improper use of lethal force involving vehicles is a pure training issue.....period.
There are other stand outs as well, but what chaps my hide...is the reporting issues and documentation. Simply......fuck these people. LE documents the crap out of force stuff. Want to know what isn't happening....crooks held accountable for assaults on officers. Want to know what is commonly hidden, swept under the carpet, disguised, dismissed, and covered up regularly....assaults on LE. FAR more deception and lack of accountability has occurred with both Law Enforcement executives and Judicial prosecutors and attorney's is in the area of how assaults on LE is handled. How about FACTUAL documentation of assaults on officers. Unedited and clean reporting of crimes, race and gender, age, prior records, etc of those who assault police. Full documentation of injuries, both short and long term of officers. Also how about discrimination in how officers are treated as victims?