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  1. #21
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    My 45acp new load

    I started with CFE powder and then finally went with TiteGroup powder. This is what I ended up with:

    The CFE for me was not as good as the titegroup powder I reloaded with this time for my 45. My EDC is the Colt Combat Commander 4.25" barrel. Formula for my Best load to date: Everglades 230 gn FMJ round nose, 4.2 gn of TiteGroup, COL of 1.248, Primers Fed or Win large (both worked ok, but I prefer the Federal). I saw no difference in the various brass that I had. I did a slow load on my Dillon Press to verify everything (powder and seatings of primer and bullet and tolerances) on EACH AND EVERY round. This was so good for my specific EDC, I doubt I will change my formula.

    Difference in CFE and Titegroup Powder was about 2" for titegroup vs 6" for CFE groupings at 25 yds. My previous FMJ round nose was seated at 1.265 and used CFE of various volumes of between 6.0gn to 6.8gn and I could never achieve even close to what my current formula gives. Also the reduction in kick is very noticeable, (as President Trump says: Bigley).

    Jim

  2. #22
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    I've shot this 45 ACP load since the mid-1990s. It was intended to duplicate the performance of JMBrowning's original recipe for the cartridge, a 200g bullet @ 900 fps from a 5" barrel. I loaded the H&G #68 SWC over 6g of 231. Bullet was seated to give optimum feeding and reliability. I may have measured it way back when but I've long forgotten. With this load I put something over 20,000 rounds through a lightly customized Government Model, then duplicated the same record through a 3rd G21 with a Bar-Sto barrel.

    A blood test showing higher than normal levels of lead in my system put an end to the cast bullets. I switched to Berry's plated 200g RS and found by chronographing I had to bump the powder up to 6.2g. This coincided with a new 8# jug of 231 so it might have been as much the new batch of powder as the plated bullets that required another .2g to get 900 fps. And yes I chronographed it from a Government Model, not from the G21. And, the Berry's bullet and load works just dandy in Moonclips through a 45 ACP Mountain Gun and a 4" 325 PD.

    Since finding myself old and broken (lol) I don't shoot near as much as I used to but still have used up a couple sleeves of WLPs loading these plated rounds. If I ever shoot up my supply of the Berry's RS I'll probably switch to their HP offering, just to make them look more serious. (smile)

    Dave

  3. #23
    357mag.
    180gr XTP over 13g of W296
    1,000 FPS through Uberti El Patron 5.5 barrel.
    Good feel and accurate.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uRBvMzKZEFY

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient1 View Post
    I started with CFE powder and then finally went with TiteGroup powder. This is what I ended up with:

    The CFE for me was not as good as the titegroup powder I reloaded with this time for my 45. My EDC is the Colt Combat Commander 4.25" barrel. Formula for my Best load to date: Everglades 230 gn FMJ round nose, 4.2 gn of TiteGroup, COL of 1.248, Primers Fed or Win large (both worked ok, but I prefer the Federal). I saw no difference in the various brass that I had. I did a slow load on my Dillon Press to verify everything (powder and seatings of primer and bullet and tolerances) on EACH AND EVERY round. This was so good for my specific EDC, I doubt I will change my formula.

    Difference in CFE and Titegroup Powder was about 2" for titegroup vs 6" for CFE groupings at 25 yds. My previous FMJ round nose was seated at 1.265 and used CFE of various volumes of between 6.0gn to 6.8gn and I could never achieve even close to what my current formula gives. Also the reduction in kick is very noticeable, (as President Trump says: Bigley).

    Jim
    I should hope so, you have cut the velocity by 100 - 200 fps.
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