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    Week 145: FAST

    Week 145: FAST

    Results may be posted until February 1st, 2015.

    Starting the new year with a PF classic - the F.A.S.T., a short test great for a baseline evaluation of stand-and-shoot skills.

    Designed by: Todd Louis Green
    Range: 7 yards
    Target: 8" circle and 3x5 card (see http://pistol-training.com/wp-conten...ast-target.pdf for a downloadable target; this target must be printed on an 8.5x14 "legal" sheet of paper)
    Start position: concealed, hands relaxed at sides (see below for alternatives)
    Rounds fired: 18


    Pistol begins with exactly two rounds in the gun. Draw should be from underneath legitimate concealment (see below for alternatives). Arms must be relaxed with hands at your sides (not on the gun).

    1. On the buzzer, draw and fire two rounds at the 3x5 card.
    2. Reload from slidelock/empty gun.
    3. Fire four rounds to the 8" circle.

    Repeat for a total of three runs (18 rounds).

    Do not fire extra rounds. Shots intended for the 3x5 that hit the 8", or vice versa, count as misses.


    Scoring is as follows:

    Total time + 2s penalty for each 3x5 shot missed, + 1s penalty for each 8" shot missed

    The FAST is intended to be shot from legitimate concealment or with a duty/retention holster. Even when shot with a duty holster, start position is arms at sides (not "interview" stance). Score is modified as follows based on carry method:

    Concealed: no penalty

    Retention holster with closed (snap or velcro) mag pouches: 0.5 second bonus (subtraction) per 6-shot run

    Retention holster with open top mag pouches: no penalty or bonus

    ALS, SERPA, or Thumb Drive (or similar) holster without concealment: 0.5 second penalty (addition) per 6-shot run

    Open top holster without concealment: 3 second penalty (addition) per 6-shot run


    If your range does not allow drawing from a holster, begin with the gun on a table with no round in the chamber (two in the magazine). On the start signal, pick up the gun, rack the slide, and shoot the drill. Reload from underneath concealment.


    Please report the following when you post your results in this thread:

    Starting position (concealed, duty, open holster, or ready position)
    Type of holster (if applicable)
    Time and hits for string 1
    Time and hits for string 2
    Time and hits for string 3
    Aggregate score


    Training with firearms is an inherently dangerous activity. Be sure to follow all safety protocols when using firearms or practicing these drills. These drills are provided for information purposes only. Use at your own risk.
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    shot cold, gen4 G34, EGA custom "Sword" concealed under tee, 3:00 OWB
    1: 6.43 C
    2: 5.92 -1H, -1B, 8.92 total
    3: 6.20 C
    T: 18.55, 21.55 with penalties
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    Shot cold
    P30 V3 in JM AIWB
    Shot from concealment

    Run1. 5.88 - 1 head = 8.88
    Run2. 5.97 clean
    Run3. 5.40 clean

    20.25 total including penalties.

    None of these were my fastest, I was really trying to be 109% accurate but the very first shot went high lol. Decided to continue and a medium pace and strive for good hits. The last few sessions I've had a issue throwing a body shot so this time I really slowed them down, my normal body shots are ~.21 and today they were all ~.32.

    Last edited by Luke; 01-03-2016 at 03:36 PM.
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    Just tried to make the hits.

    Gen3 G34, concealed under a polo shirt in a Keeper

    First run: 3.79: 1.09, .42 / 1.53 / .26, .25, .24
    Second run: 3.58: 1.06, .37 / 1.44 / .25, .23, .23
    Third run: 3.72: 1.08, .34 / 1.59 / .26, .23, .22

    Aggregate score: 11.09
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    Excellent and very consistent shooting Mr. White!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_White View Post
    Just tried to make the hits.

    Gen3 G34, concealed under a polo shirt in a Keeper

    First run: 3.79: 1.09, .42 / 1.53 / .26, .25, .24
    Second run: 3.58: 1.06, .37 / 1.44 / .25, .23, .23
    Third run: 3.72: 1.08, .34 / 1.59 / .26, .23, .22

    Aggregate score: 11.09
    that is ridiculously awesome shooting.
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    Thanks you guys. I now have a lot better perspective that while better is better and worse is worse, it's a big aid to shoot a task in a comfortable and familiar environment. I bet these would turn into low/mid-4s in a match or anyplace else that entails more pressure. Narrowing that performance gap is a significant part of 'getting better' IMHO. For me, success at the FAST Challenge in AFHF was largely about getting down to semi-consistent sub-4 runs in comfortable practice, and then when it came to the test in class, I was able to lay back and shoot fairly comfortably at the mid/high-4 range.

    And dammit, you can post results in this thread until February 1st, 2016. Not 2015.
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    Glock 17 in OWB holster under an open Atom LT

    3 consecutive runs
    1st - 5.45 sec clean

    2nd - 6.05 sec, one 3x5 miss, rode slide lock, got no lockback and had to power stroke it

    3rd - 5.63 sec clean

    combined 17.13 plus 2 sec 3x5 miss penalty: 19.13
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    Quote Originally Posted by JHC View Post
    Glock 17 in OWB holster under an open Atom LT

    3 consecutive runs
    1st - 5.45 sec clean

    2nd - 6.05 sec, one 3x5 miss, rode slide lock, got no lockback and had to power stroke it

    3rd - 5.63 sec clean

    combined 17.13 plus 2 sec 3x5 miss penalty: 19.13
    impressive shooting.
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