Week 2: The 4567 Drill

[ToddG]

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Week 2: The 4567 Drill
results may be posted until 11:59pm EDT on Monday 17-October-2011.

designed by Chris Edwards (Glock Professional, Inc.) and Todd Louis Green
Range: 7yd
Target: 6" circle (download pdf here)
Start position: varies, see below
Rounds fired: 20

The 4567 was inspired by Gila Hayes’s “5×4″ drill and the various iterations thereof.

The drill is run four times, five rounds each, on a six inch circle, at seven yards. A shot timer is used to begin each string of fire. The four strings of fire are:

1. draw and fire 5 rounds from concealment, two-handed
2. draw and fire 5 rounds from concealment, strong hand only
3. from the ready position fire 5 rounds, weak hand only
4. draw and fire 5 rounds from concealment, two-handed (repeat of string 1)

For any shot outside of the 6″ circle, add 1 second to your time. Total the times (and penalties) for all four strings to determine your overall score:

Basic score total time with penalties is 4+5+6+7 = 22 seconds
Intermediate is 5+6+7 seconds = 18 seconds
Advanced is 6+7 = 13 seconds

This drill is also compatible with the Q-PT target using the inner (white outline) center of mass circle.

[Al T.]

Looks like a good drill. Question on the scoring.

Basic score PAR time is 4+5+6+7 = 22 seconds
Intermediate PAR is 5+6+7 seconds = 18 seconds
Advanced PAR is 6+7 = 13 seconds

Understand the part about Basic = 22 seconds, I. = 18 seconds, A. = 13 seconds.

How does PAR (parts underlined and bold) work? Seems to my tiny mammal brain, that scores would be cumulative per shot string.

[Al T.]

*Lightbulb !*

Thanks Tom!

[ToddG]

Thanks, Tom! Very good question, Al. I'll make a change to the original post here as well as the description at pistol-training.com.

[167]

So I am not exactly goo at this one either I have to slow way down to keep my hits in target.

String 1: 3.65
String 2: 6.92
String 3: 8.32 (-2)
String 4: 3.44

Total Time: 24.33

Add this one to the list of things to work on.

[KeeFus]

Did this exercise today. First run was cold w/ my trusted G-17 w/ Heinie sights:

S1 - 3:41 (0)
S2 - 4:19 (1)
S3 - 4:53 (1)
S4 - 3:56 (1)

Total: 18:69



Second time was immediately following the first run w/ the G-17 again:

S1 - 3:37 (0)
S2 - 4:14 (0)
S3 - 5:24 (2)
S4 - 4:20 (0)

Total: 18:95



ETA: Equipment: Sig-Tac vest; Federal Champion 9mm 115 gr; Blade Tech IDPA "Bobby McGee" holster.

I'm trying to transition to the M&P now that it will be my duty weapon. With my M&P 4.25 Pro I did bad enough that I stopped on the third string and just went back to basic marksmanship drills. I got very frustrated. Didn't think it would be that big a difference between the two (Glock v M&P). I sucketh!

Later on I began to do mag changes w/ the M&P...average about 1.8 and ran as high as 2.20.

[Little Creek]

First time cold.
G19
Glock night sights
115 WWB
Blade-Tech IDPA holster
concealed by vest
4.56
6.72
6.50
5.01
22.79
Good group

[Mr_White]

10/13/2011
Gen3 G34, stock except Ameriglo Defoor sights
AIWB, Blade-tech Nano (modified)
Closed front shirt

String 1: 2.66/1 out
String 2: 3.59/0 out
String 3: 3.71/0 out
String 4: 2.77/0 out
Raw Time: 12.73
Total Time: 13.73



I tried to post a pic of the target, but I am obviously doing something wrong. Huh.

Thank you Tom_Jones!

[KeeFus]

10/13/2011
Gen3 G34, stock except Ameriglo Defoor sights
AIWB, Blade-tech Nano (modified)
Closed front shirt

String 1: 2.66/1 out
String 2: 3.59/0 out
String 3: 3.71/0 out
String 4: 2.77/0 out
Raw Time: 12.73
Total Time: 13.73



I tried to post a pic of the target, but I am obviously doing something wrong. Huh.

Thank you Tom_Jones!

NICE!!!!

[Pennzoil]

M&P 9 FS
CCC Shaggy
T shirt - closed front

It was the first drill I did today.

1. 3.59
2. 6.57 -1
3. 5.35
4. 3.55

Total time 20.06