Gray Guns Perfection Action Kit- Sig Saur P Series

[Sero Sed Serio]

How much more complicated is a Sig compared to a Glock for a mechanically slow individual?

It's not too bad. There can be a little bit of trickiness in figuring out the exact position of the hammer and it's return spring, but not bad. The Gray Guns video is a great help, as are the SIG-specific tools. I still need the video when I do it (unlike the Glocks), but that might just be because I've only detail-stripped the SIG 4 or 5 times, compared to dozens for the Glocks.

I hope that this new kit will work in the 225A (or a 225A version will be forthcoming)--I would love to drop one into an all-stainless 225A.

[GJM]

Is the thinking that you would end up with a better, long term trigger with these parts, because of their quality, compared to a GGI trigger on current P series trigger parts?

[RJ]

$325? Is that really for just the parts?

And the trigger on a P320, it is so bad that a kit like this makes business sense? Kinda like "S&W M&P triggers suck" bad, or not that far?

*scratches head*

[SteveK]

As good as I'm finding the current SRT triggers, I can't justify the cost.

[CCT125US]

As good as I'm finding the current SRT triggers, I can't justify the cost.

An SRT kit has a great cost-benefit ratio.

[BehindBlueI's]

$325? Is that really for just the parts?

And the trigger on a P320, it is so bad that a kit like this makes business sense? Kinda like "S&W M&P triggers suck" bad, or not that far?

*scratches head*

I thought the P320 trigger was pretty darned good out of the box. I'm sure it can be better, I suppose everything can, but it seems deep into diminished returns for the vast majority of us.

[GJM]

$325? Is that really for just the parts?

And the trigger on a P320, it is so bad that a kit like this makes business sense? Kinda like "S&W M&P triggers suck" bad, or not that far?

*scratches head*

The business case is pretty simple -- what does it cost GGI to make this trigger set and how many can they sell. They have created lots of interest in their trigger jobs, which are expensive and time consuming to get. This is essentially their trigger job in a box. You can pay $200+ for an AR trigger, so I don't think the price is crazy high. High, but not crazy high.

I find Sig triggers to be generally better than an HK DA/SA trigger, so they are quite usable. That said, some folks always want a better trigger. Not sure that I will buy a kit, but I am glad it is an option. At the price of a SSA AR trigger, I bet they would sell a bunch more kits.

[Patrin]

$325? Is that really for just the parts?

And the trigger on a P320, it is so bad that a kit like this makes business sense? Kinda like "S&W M&P triggers suck" bad, or not that far?

*scratches head*

It is high...and GGI's basic SIG action job has been high, too high, for years. I've never payed more than 175$ for an SIG action job and, with shipping round trip, I was coming out at 225$ total. So no, this drop in kit is not cost effective.

You want a sweet DA/SA action job from a SIG smith that has worked on a few thousand and knows his business? Total Automation is where to go.

On the P320...well...it makes me appreciate my VP9's even more...the P320, the five that I've felt, all have had gritty trigger pulls in need of an action job to get it to feeling like my VP9...which makes the P320 no longer cost effective either as a striker gun compared to Glock or HK.

GGI turns out good work, but not with affordability in mind.

[psalms144.1]

I would LOVE to have any pistol worked over by Bruce and the guys, but can't afford it. I especially couldn't afford to buy an $800+ base Sig and drop almost a Glock's worth of money into parts to make it better. This is my beef with Sig in a nutshell - at the price they ask, the pistol should not NEED work (and, frankly, as much as I bash them, I rarely find one that's reliable that really NEEDS an action job). But I'm sure there are going to be a lot of folks dropping $1100 on a "Legion" and then adding these parts even though the action is already worked over before it ships... Then trying to sell them for $1500, used...

[GJM]

Trigger work generally, and especially GGI trigger work, is the shooter's equivalent of Viagra. You know, buy performance. I understand it is especially attractive to a cardiologist.