I went to carrying 2 pairs of those in 2010. I've been very happy with them.Originally Posted by Gadfly
I went to carrying 2 pairs of those in 2010. I've been very happy with them.
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I carried one oversized chain and one hinged--loved the hinged!
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Put me in the chain only crowd.
Much easier to maneuver a cuff into position than to maneuver the wrist into position.
And having control of the person should be the first order of business regardless of cuff type. Control, cuff then search. Cuffs stay in the pouch until control is established on the subject.
If anyone has a video of the ASP cuffs getting broken, please post it up. I have used S&W cuffs my entire career, but a bunch of the new kids bought the ASPs.
Agreed, I am also interested.
I have only been on the job about a year and a half now. I went through an inner city satellite academy where the entire department issues/trains with ASP hinged cuffs. I was using my issued Peerless hinged and chains while in the academy. They constantly pinched/grabbed at my hands. I have very large hands.
Once I got on the road and off FTO I switched to carrying a pair of ASP steel hinged cuffs and Peerless chains as a backup. Now I am carrying the ASP steel hinged cuffs as primary and a pair of ASP aluminum hinged as backups. I find the hinged works better for me in most arrest and control scenarios, but I was also trained on hinged cuffs in a very methodical way of applying them.
The only situation I have found where I like chain cuffs better is cuffing an arrestee to a stretcher/hospital bed.
Very interested in the Hiatts now after reading reviews here.
Last edited by Whiskey_Bravo; 10-28-2015 at 12:18 AM.
I've always carried Peerless. When I was working a beat I carried one hinge and one chain. I used the hinge cuffs as my primaries. Small females and second suspects got chain. I don't handcuff many people these days. I carry Peerless hinged now.
Last edited by Coyotesfan97; 10-28-2015 at 01:23 AM.
Just a dog chauffeur that used to hold the dumb end of the leash.
Hers is one where the guy breaks them when theyre on in front. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p82ypGazlRc
We aren't allowed to have hinged per policy, having said that I carry both a hinged set and a standard chain cuff made by safariland / hiatt, hinged in my bag and chain in my rig.
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Hinged are easier to speed cuff and besides, they always complain that the hinged cuffs "hurt."
Both. I carry chains in the field and transport in hinged cuffs. I can get chains on faster, but hinges are harder to break or jump. Personally I'd rather deal with a prisoner in a broken pair of cuffs than a prisoner with an unbreakable garrote. Also if a prisoner manages to break a cheek plate it's much harder to use the free ratchet on a pair of hinged cuffs as a stabbing weapon.
If a police officer lets his prisoner move around that much, at least he won't get choked to death with the chain. That method can be used to break any brand of chain cuffs. S&W chains are really easy to break that way because of the large chain swivels and the ledge between the lock and cheek plates. Realistically I think cuffs getting broken on seatbelt buckles is a bigger concern.
Break, no, but I've seen plenty of instances were they were flexed enough that the single strand missed the opening of the double strand when attempting to cuff a resisting subject. Take a pair of Hiatts and push sideways on the strand as you close them. Do the same with the ASP cuffs. Toss ASP cuffs on eBay.
Plus, ASP has keyholes on both sides which is a safety issue.
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