90% of the "New 870, Gotta Problem!" posts across the major gun forums concern the Express models.
There IS a difference between those and the 870P, and the P is very much worth the extra money.
Denis
90% of the "New 870, Gotta Problem!" posts across the major gun forums concern the Express models.
There IS a difference between those and the 870P, and the P is very much worth the extra money.
Denis
I picked up a 1990 manufacture 870 Wingmaster with AZ DPS rollmarks from Summit for $179. Internally, there's very little wear. Great place to deal with.Originally Posted by MD7305
The Express gets a MIM extractor that has shown itself to be less durable than the machined P extractor.
The Express gets the polymer trigger group housing, instead of the aluminum trigger group housing of the P.
The Express has a persistent rust issue that the P does not.
Those are the major differences.
The P is intended for a market that demands a durable gun.
The Express is intended for a market that looks for a lower price.
Denis
My newest P is a couple years old & has the alloy.
I may be behind on that.
I'll try to find out.
My gunsmith has gotten one plastic trigger group housing in that busted up in the area where the crosspins go through.
He's never seen a problem with the alloys.
I'd be surprised if the P uses plastic there now, but it's possible.
Denis
Tom,
My Remington guy this morning says his LE division people tell him the P's trigger plate is still alloy.
That'd be my best info short of chasing one down in person.
Denis
Happy to help.
My oldest 870 is a Highway Patrol Wingmaster trade-in, upgraded by Vang Comp. My second oldest is another PD trade-in from the 1960's that's been lightly re-built & SBS'd.
I have a 1990-ish Express that was one of the first Expresses & back then they had the same base quality, just a no-polish finish & basic wood. It's still running fine, been SBS'd & travels on desert & mountain ATV runs.
I have one newer P.
Excellent quality.
I've worked with a newer Express & it ran fine, for the limited amount of time I had it here.
But- was not up to quite the same standard as the older Wingmasters & the newer Ps.
There are those who like the Express models & if you're happy with one, it's your choice.
If I "needed" another 870, it'd either be old or a P.
Denis
Agreed.If I "needed" another 870, it'd either be old or a P.
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I'm assuming it's the Remington 870 Police (Magnum ?)
There's okay, but why are you going to pay $150 more for one that can take larger shells ?
I've set aside $800 for My Custom Build.
Midways use 870 Barrel w/choke. *I've been considering using a Briley, most are less than $85.
It wasn't the color shown on the page, but i've seen a few services where you can actually ship them
the barrel, and they'll cerakote to your desired color. (Price Unknown) I'll see if I could add the webpage sometime.
I know, I know - MagPul was part of the issue, when Uncle Sam wanted to take away our (M85) Green Tipped 5.56mm rounds, but it was the only mfg. that has this color for a pump-grip. I've actually already purchased the M-Lok; at the recommendation of a local shop employee, I want to add the Streamlight 'GameSpotter' for a little more subdued lighting - still w/target aquisition. With the recent surge of 'curious criminals, I think it's something that would be less suspected. (Breaking into a house & having a low-hue green light would take a few moments to realize their mistake - the split second which may save your life !!).
I've also added an RCI Express 10-shot tube, some may ask "why", when they've already purchased one for an M2.
I like to know I've got 2-3+ shots than a standard tube, but i've always been a fan of heavier weapons. The test of endurance.
It would likely also benefit the shooter, should they have a shot or 2 of slug, given the length.
The 20 shot sling is a Blackhawk, and I can't say it enough, reloading isn't fun - unless you've already put 10 shots down range (for the shotgun's example). It would save room, than having something on a MOLLE Vest.
I've also added a Mesa Tactical 6 shell holder, for the side. I know it doesn't have ALL 6 there, but in stressful situations, I don't want to be fumbling around, (likely w/gloves on); for that little space gives you a little 'relief'. It's fantastic.
The stock is an ATI Tech. 'Marine Folding' /folder. The box it came in was pretty sweet, especially when putting it together.
Take down of an 870 is as simple as any standard 1911 or Glock / Beretta pistol. It's maybe 3-4 motions and you'll be able to
exchange ALL the parts i've listed.
Regarding the purchase, I ordered from a dealer in Cali (heaven forbid), but just helping the cause, as they're fighting as many gun restrictions as the Eastern Seaboard. Most local sporting goods, hunting stores will carry the 870 for a price of about $350.
I purchased this NEW and was shipped (total) for about $380.
I'm considering purchasing a Mossberg 500-series next. Still likely to wait until March, so I can set aside enough to have room for (less) upgrades, maybe just a different buttstock - maybe a 'Speedfed' (+2).
Thanks for looking !!!!
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